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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho.andersen@canonical.com>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: v5 of seccomp filter c/r patches
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 16:44:43 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151002224443.GN23065@smitten> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJJoM3NdwSmigWy8trTBATsvkGUDmbZ02QOyU=1tD0Y-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 02:10:24PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Tycho Andersen
> <tycho.andersen@canonical.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here's v5 of the seccomp filter c/r set. The individual patch notes have
> > changes, but two highlights are:
> >
> > * This series is now based on http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/525492/ and
> >   will need to be built with that patch applied. This gets rid of two incorrect
> >   patches in the previous series and is a nicer API.
> >
> > * I couldn't figure out a nice way to have SECCOMP_GET_FILTER_FD return the
> >   same struct file across calls, so we still need a kcmp command. I've narrowed
> >   the scope of the one being added to only compare seccomp fds.
> >
> > Thoughts welcome,
> 
> Hi, sorry I've been slow/busy. I'm finally reading through these threads.
> 
> Happy bit:
> - avoiding eBPF and just saving the original filters makes things much easier.
> 
> Sad bit:
> - inventing a new interface for seccompfds feels like massive overkill to me.
> 
> While Andy has big dreams, we're not presently doing seccompfd
> monitoring, etc. There's no driving user for that kind of interface,
> and accepting the maintenance burden of it only for CRIU seems unwise.
> 
> So, I'll go back to what I originally proposed at LSS (which it looks
> like we're half way there now):
> 
> - save the original filter (done!)
> - extract filters through a single special-purpose interface (looks
> like ptrace is the way to go: root-only, stopped process, etc)
> - compare filter content and issue TSYNCs to merge detected sibling
> threads, since merging things that weren't merged before creates no
> problems.
> 
> This means the parenting logic is heuristic, but it's entirely in
> userspace, so the complexity burden doesn't live in seccomp which we,
> by design, want to keep as simple as possible.

Ok, how about,

struct sock_filter insns[BPF_MAXINSNS];
insn_cnt = ptrace(PTRACE_SECCOMP_GET_FILTER, pid, insns, i);

when asking for the ith filter? It returns either the number of
instructions, -EINVAL if something was wrong (i, pid,
CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE isn't enabled). While it would always
succeed now, if/when the underlying filter was not created from a bpf
classic filter, we can return -EMEDIUMTYPE? (Suggestions welcome, I
picked this mostly based on what sounds nice.)

Tycho

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-02 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-02 16:27 v5 of seccomp filter c/r patches Tycho Andersen
2015-10-02 16:27 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] seccomp: add the concept of a seccomp filter FD Tycho Andersen
2015-10-02 16:27 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] seccomp: add a ptrace command to get seccomp filter fds Tycho Andersen
2015-10-02 16:27 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] kcmp: add KCMP_SECCOMP_FD Tycho Andersen
2015-10-02 21:10 ` v5 of seccomp filter c/r patches Kees Cook
     [not found]   ` <CAGXu5jJJoM3NdwSmigWy8trTBATsvkGUDmbZ02QOyU=1tD0Y-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-02 21:29     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]       ` <CALCETrV1XnOjqq1MFZk4WghPkOqTNp7kKqrvspzUp6zwxmLDWQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-02 22:02         ` Kees Cook
     [not found]           ` <CAGXu5jL_GVmbGk5twfASk7+M2gHyKQ1bv8+GD_CPf8B3pPF7ng-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-02 22:04             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02 22:06               ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                 ` <CAGXu5jJGakjhuBgZqvgxN8TraDJ0TEnSJ1dQXo9gRg=HwJXmwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-02 22:16                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-02 22:44   ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2015-10-02 22:52     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]       ` <CALCETrXOLZgPADEbBhrQNZK=sSgSzFcgXzhXv9uXQe-9HY=fzg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-02 22:56         ` Tycho Andersen
2015-10-02 22:57     ` Daniel Borkmann
     [not found]       ` <560F0BED.2070304-FeC+5ew28dpmcu3hnIyYJQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-02 22:59         ` Tycho Andersen
2015-10-02 23:00       ` Kees Cook

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