From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>,
Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb@mellanox.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: clocksource_watchdog causing scheduling of timers every second (was [v13] support "task_isolation" mode)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 00:16:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810221656.GC19757@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607270847460.24843@east.gentwo.org>
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 08:55:28AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, Christoph Lameter wrote:
>
> > Guess so. I will have a look at this when I get some time again.
>
> Ok so the problem is the clocksource_watchdog() function in
> kernel/time/clocksource.c. This function is active if
> CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG is defined. It will check the timesources of
> each processor for being within bounds and then reschedule itself on the
> next one.
>
> The purpose of the function seems to be to determine *if* a clocksource is
> unstable. It does not mean that the clocksource *is* unstable.
>
> The critical piece of code is this:
>
> /*
> * Cycle through CPUs to check if the CPUs stay synchronized
> * to each other.
> */
> next_cpu = cpumask_next(raw_smp_processor_id(), cpu_online_mask);
> if (next_cpu >= nr_cpu_ids)
> next_cpu = cpumask_first(cpu_online_mask);
> watchdog_timer.expires += WATCHDOG_INTERVAL;
> add_timer_on(&watchdog_timer, next_cpu);
>
>
> Should we just cycle through the cpus that are not isolated? Otherwise we
> need to have some means to check the clocksources for accuracy remotely
> (probably impossible for TSC etc).
>
> The WATCHDOG_INTERVAL is 1 second so this causes an interrupt every
> second.
>
> Note that we are running with the patch that removes the 1 HZ mininum time
> tick. With an older kernel code base (redhat) we can keep the kernel quiet
> for minutes. The clocksource watchdog causes timers to fire again.
I had similar issues, this seems to happen when the tsc is considered not reliable
(which doesn't necessarily mean unstable. I think it has to do with some x86 CPU feature
flag).
IIRC, this _has_ to execute on all online CPUs because every TSCs of running CPUs
are concerned.
I personally override that with passing the tsc=reliable kernel parameter. Of course
use it at your own risk.
But eventually I don't think we can offline that to housekeeping only CPUs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-10 22:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-14 20:48 [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Chris Metcalf
2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 04/12] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2016-07-14 20:48 ` [PATCH v13 12/12] task_isolation: add user-settable notification signal Chris Metcalf
[not found] ` <1468529299-27929-1-git-send-email-cmetcalf-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 21:03 ` [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrVddfd7ZDGpYs4CdkAMEmQCb6a-_5Um9bb4FO+XwWzOAA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-14 21:22 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-07-18 22:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-07-18 22:50 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-07-18 0:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-21 2:04 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607202059180.25838-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-21 14:06 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-07-22 2:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-22 12:50 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-07-25 16:35 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607251133450.25354-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-27 13:55 ` clocksource_watchdog causing scheduling of timers every second (was [v13] support "task_isolation" mode) Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 14:12 ` Chris Metcalf
[not found] ` <f8d72e47-7e84-cbd0-869f-69bf452a8bfb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-27 15:23 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1607271022130.25729-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-27 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 17:06 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-07-27 18:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 19:49 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-07-27 19:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-07-27 19:58 ` Chris Metcalf
[not found] ` <2fefa17d-37c6-9669-724e-9ee0d841e7b2-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-29 18:31 ` Francis Giraldeau
[not found] ` <CAC6yHM4LON5ASooVa_eUaDYsN1W0HYTMX76yHDxf8Mff0mKqiA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-29 21:04 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-10 22:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2016-08-10 22:26 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-11 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-11 11:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-08-15 15:03 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-08-11 16:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-11 23:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2016-08-11 23:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-08-12 14:23 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.20.1608120922450.20310-wcBtFHqTun5QOdAKl3ChDw@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-12 14:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-08-12 16:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
[not found] ` <20160812161919.GV3482-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-13 15:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2016-08-11 8:27 ` [PATCH v13 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-27 14:01 ` Christoph Lameter
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