From: joeyli <jlee-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-LthD3rsA81gm4RdzfppkhA@public.gmane.org>,
Toshi Kani <toshi.kani-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>,
linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: memory hotplug and force_remove
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:57:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170330165729.GN28365@linux-l9pv.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170330162031.GE4326-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 06:20:34PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 30-03-17 10:47:52, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > > > > > we have been chasing the following BUG() triggering during the memory
> > > > > > hotremove (remove_memory):
> > > > > > ret = walk_memory_range(PFN_DOWN(start), PFN_UP(start + size - 1), NULL,
> > > > > > check_memblock_offlined_cb);
> > > > > > if (ret)
> > > > > > BUG();
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and it took a while to learn that the issue is caused by
> > > > > > /sys/firmware/acpi/hotplug/force_remove being enabled. I was really
> > > > > > surprised to see such an option because at least for the memory hotplug
> > > > > > it cannot work at all. Memory hotplug fails when the memory is still
> > > > > > in use. Even if we do not BUG() here enforcing the hotplug operation
> > > > > > will lead to problematic behavior later like crash or a silent memory
> > > > > > corruption if the memory gets onlined back and reused by somebody else.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am wondering what was the motivation for introducing this behavior and
> > > > > > whether there is a way to disallow it for memory hotplug. Or maybe drop
> > > > > > it completely. What would break in such a case?
> > > > >
> > > > > Honestly, I don't remember from the top of my head and I haven't looked at
> > > > > that code for several months.
> > > > >
> > > > > I need some time to recall that.
> > > >
> > > > Did you have any chance to look into this?
> > >
> > > Well, yes.
> > >
> > > It looks like that was added for some people who depended on the old behavior
> > > at that time.
> > >
> > > I guess we can try to drop it and see what happpens. :-)
> >
> > I'd agree with that; at the same time, udev rule should be submitted to
> > systemd folks though. I don't think there is anything existing in this
> > area yet (neither do distros ship their own udev rules for this AFAIK).
>
> Another option would keepint the force_remove knob but make the code be
> error handling aware. In other words rather than ignoring offline error
> simply propagate it up the chain and do not consider the offline. Would
> that be acceptable?
Then the only difference between normal mode is that the force_remove mode
doesn't send out uevent for not-offline-yet container.
I vote to remove force_remove not just it ignored offline error and also
it's a acpi global knob that it affect all container devices in system.
Thanks a lot!
Joey Lee
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-03-30 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-20 19:29 memory hotplug and force_remove Michal Hocko
2017-03-20 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 16:13 ` joeyli
2017-03-28 7:58 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-28 15:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-30 8:47 ` Jiri Kosina
2017-03-30 16:20 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170330162031.GE4326-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-30 16:57 ` joeyli [this message]
[not found] ` <20170330165729.GN28365-g7OFGfmEpDh8S/rGE13EwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-30 20:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-31 0:00 ` joeyli
2017-03-31 8:30 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170331083017.GK27098-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 10:49 ` joeyli
[not found] ` <20170331104905.GA28365-g7OFGfmEpDh8S/rGE13EwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 10:55 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170331105505.GM27098-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 11:55 ` joeyli
2017-03-31 12:02 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170331120236.GO27098-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 22:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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