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From: joeyli <jlee@suse.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: memory hotplug and force_remove
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 08:00:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170331000030.GO28365@linux-l9pv.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8340752.8oM5M3L67Q@aspire.rjw.lan>

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:15:04PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Friday, March 31, 2017 12:57:29 AM joeyli wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 06:20:34PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 30-03-17 10:47:52, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > we have been chasing the following BUG() triggering during the memory
> > > > > > > > hotremove (remove_memory):
> > > > > > > > 	ret = walk_memory_range(PFN_DOWN(start), PFN_UP(start + size - 1), NULL,
> > > > > > > > 				check_memblock_offlined_cb);
> > > > > > > > 	if (ret)
> > > > > > > > 		BUG();
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > and it took a while to learn that the issue is caused by
> > > > > > > > /sys/firmware/acpi/hotplug/force_remove being enabled. I was really
> > > > > > > > surprised to see such an option because at least for the memory hotplug
> > > > > > > > it cannot work at all. Memory hotplug fails when the memory is still
> > > > > > > > in use. Even if we do not BUG() here enforcing the hotplug operation
> > > > > > > > will lead to problematic behavior later like crash or a silent memory
> > > > > > > > corruption if the memory gets onlined back and reused by somebody else.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am wondering what was the motivation for introducing this behavior and
> > > > > > > > whether there is a way to disallow it for memory hotplug. Or maybe drop
> > > > > > > > it completely. What would break in such a case?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Honestly, I don't remember from the top of my head and I haven't looked at
> > > > > > > that code for several months.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I need some time to recall that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Did you have any chance to look into this?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Well, yes.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It looks like that was added for some people who depended on the old behavior
> > > > > at that time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess we can try to drop it and see what happpens. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > I'd agree with that; at the same time, udev rule should be submitted to 
> > > > systemd folks though. I don't think there is anything existing in this 
> > > > area yet (neither do distros ship their own udev rules for this AFAIK).
> > > 
> > > Another option would keepint the force_remove knob but make the code be
> > > error handling aware. In other words rather than ignoring offline error
> > > simply propagate it up the chain and do not consider the offline. Would
> > > that be acceptable?
> > 
> > Then the only difference between normal mode is that the force_remove mode
> > doesn't send out uevent for not-offline-yet container.
> 
> Which would be rather confusing.
> 
> The whole point of the thing was the "remove no matter what" behavior and
> there's not much point in keeping it around without that.
>

OK~ Understood.

Then back the "remove no matter waht" behavior, the point is
force_remove knob causes that acpi_scan_try_to_offline() ignored
the offline error of parent/children devices in the second pass:

drivers/acpi/scan.c
static int acpi_scan_try_to_offline(struct acpi_device *device)
{  
...
	/* first pass to call bus offline for parent */
	acpi_bus_offline(handle, 0, (void *)false, (void **)&errdev);
	/* if failed, then second pass */
	if (errdev) { 
		errdev = NULL;
		/* children devices, second pass */
		acpi_walk_namespace(ACPI_TYPE_ANY, handle, ACPI_UINT32_MAX,
				    NULL, acpi_bus_offline, (void *)true,
				    (void **)&errdev);
		/* ignored children's offline error here */
		if (!errdev || acpi_force_hot_remove)
			/* ignored parent's offline error */
			acpi_bus_offline(handle, 0, (void *)true,
					 (void **)&errdev);

		/* will not set devices back to online */
		if (errdev && !acpi_force_hot_remove) { 
	...
	}
	return 0;
}

Then acpi_scan_try_to_offline() returns 0 and go to _remove_ stage, then
memory subsystem raises BUG() because the device offline state doesn't sync
with memory block state.


Thanks a lot!
Joey Lee

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-31  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-20 19:29 memory hotplug and force_remove Michal Hocko
2017-03-20 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-21 16:13   ` joeyli
2017-03-28  7:58   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-28 15:22     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-30  8:47       ` Jiri Kosina
2017-03-30 16:20         ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <20170330162031.GE4326-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-30 16:57             ` joeyli
     [not found]               ` <20170330165729.GN28365-g7OFGfmEpDh8S/rGE13EwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-30 20:15                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-03-31  0:00                   ` joeyli [this message]
2017-03-31  8:30       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20170331083017.GK27098-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 10:49           ` joeyli
     [not found]             ` <20170331104905.GA28365-g7OFGfmEpDh8S/rGE13EwQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 10:55               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <20170331105505.GM27098-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 11:55                   ` joeyli
2017-03-31 12:02                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                       ` <20170331120236.GO27098-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-03-31 22:35                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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