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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] firmware: fix sending -ERESTARTSYS due to signal on fallback
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 19:52:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170606175254.GE27288@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170606163401.GA27288-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>

Used wrong alias for fsdevel now, its linux-fsdevel ...

  Luis

On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 06:34:01PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> Adding fsdevel for review on the correct semantics of handling signals on
> write(), in this case a sysfs write which triggered a sync request firmware
> call and what the firmware API should return in such case of a signal (I gather
> this should be -EINTR and not -ERESTARTSYS). Also whether or not SIGINT should
> be followed or if only allowing SIGKILL is fine (fine by me, but it would
> change old behaviour).
> 
> Hoping between fsdevel and linux-api folks we can hash this out.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 11:04:37AM +0200, Martin Fuzzey wrote:
> > On 05/06/17 22:24, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For these two reasons then it would seem best we do two things actually:
> > > 
> > > 1) return -EINTR instead of -EAGAIN when we detect swait_event_interruptible_timeout()
> > > got interrupted by a signal (it returns -ERESTARTSYS)
> > 
> > 
> > I disagree. That would force userspace to handle the signal rather than
> > having the kernel retry.
> > 
> > From Documentation/DocBook/kernel-hacking.tmpl:
> > 
> >    After you slept you should check if a signal occurred: the
> >    Unix/Linux way of handling signals is to temporarily exit the
> >    system call with the <constant>-ERESTARTSYS</constant> error.  The
> >    system call entry code will switch back to user context, process
> >    the signal handler and then your system call will be restarted
> >    (unless the user disabled that).  So you should be prepared to
> >    process the restart, e.g. if you're in the middle of manipulating
> >    some data structure.
> 
> This applies but you are missing my point that the LWN article [0] I referred
> to also stated "Kernel code which uses interruptible sleeps must always check
> to see whether it woke up as a result of a signal, and, if so, clean up
> whatever it was doing and return -EINTR back to user space." -- I realize there
> may be contradiction with above documentation -- this perhaps can be clarified
> with fsdevel folks *but* regardless of that the same article notes Alan Cox
> explains that "Unix tradition (and thus almost all applications) believe file
> store writes to be non signal interruptible. It would not be safe or practical
> to change that guarantee." So for this reason alone there does seem to be an
> exemption to the above documentation worth noting for file store writes, and
> the patch which you tested below *moves* the sysfs write op for firmware in
> that direction by adding a new killable swait.
> 
> [0] https://lwn.net/Articles/288056/                                                                                                                                          
>                                                                                                                                                                                 
> > > 2) Do as you note below and add wait_event_killable_timeout()
> > 
> > Hum,  I do think that would be better but, (please correct me if I'm wrong)
> > the _killable_ variants only allow SIGKILL  (and not SIGINT).
> 
> That seems correct given a TASK_KILLABLE is also TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE.
> 
> > 0cb64249ca "firmware_loader: abort request if wait_for_completion is
> > interrupted"
> > 
> > specifically mentrions ctrl-c (SIGINT) in the commit message so that would
> > no longer work.
> 
> Great point, but it *also* allowed SIGKILL, so I do feel the goal was also to
> allow it to be killable. I'm afraid that patch probably did not get proper
> review from sufficient folks and its worth now asking ourselves what we'd like
> to do.  I'm fine with letting go of SIGINT for firmware sysfs calls for the
> sake of keeping with the long standing unix tradition on write, given we *still
> have SIGKILL*.
> 
> > Myself I think having to use kill -9 to interrupt firmware loading by a
> > usespace helper is OK but others may disagree.
> 
> Its why I added fsdevel as well. This is really a semantics and uapi question.
> Between fsdevel and linux-api folks I would hope we can come to a sensible
> resolution.
> 
> > > I do not see why we could not introduce wait_event_killable_timeout()
> > > and swait_event_killable_timeout() into -stables.
> > > After seeing how simple it is to do so I tend to agree. Greg, Peter,
> > > what are your thoughts ?
> > > 
> > > Martin Fuzzey can you test this patch as an alternative to your issue ?
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/base/firmware_class.c b/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> > > index b9f907eedbf7..70fc42e5e0da 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/base/firmware_class.c
> > > @@ -131,7 +131,7 @@ static int __fw_state_wait_common(struct fw_state *fw_st, long timeout)
> > >   {
> > >   	long ret;
> > > -	ret = swait_event_interruptible_timeout(fw_st->wq,
> > > +	ret = swait_event_killable_timeout(fw_st->wq,
> > >   				__fw_state_is_done(READ_ONCE(fw_st->status)),
> > >   				timeout);
> > >   	if (ret != 0 && fw_st->status == FW_STATUS_ABORTED)
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/swait.h b/include/linux/swait.h
> > > index c1f9c62a8a50..9c5ca2898b2f 100644
> > > --- a/include/linux/swait.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/swait.h
> > > @@ -169,4 +169,29 @@ do {									\
> > >   	__ret;								\
> > >   })
> > > +#define __swait_event_killable(wq, condition)				\
> > > +	(void)___swait_event(wq, condition, TASK_KILLABLE, 0, schedule())
> > > +
> > > +#define swait_event_killable(wq, condition)				\
> > > +({									\
> > > +	int __ret = 0;							\
> > > +	if (!(condition))						\
> > > +		__ret = __swait_event_killable(wq, condition);		\
> > > +	__ret;								\
> > > +})
> > > +
> > > +#define __swait_event_killable_timeout(wq, condition, timeout)		\
> > > +	___swait_event(wq, ___wait_cond_timeout(condition),		\
> > > +		      TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE, timeout,			\
> > > +		      __ret = schedule_timeout(__ret))
> > > +
> > 
> > Should be TASK_KILLABLE above
> 
> Oops yes sorry.
> 
> > > +#define swait_event_killable_timeout(wq, condition, timeout)		\
> > > +({									\
> > > +	long __ret = timeout;						\
> > > +	if (!___wait_cond_timeout(condition))				\
> > > +		__ret = __swait_event_killable_timeout(wq,		\
> > > +						condition, timeout);	\
> > > +	__ret;								\
> > > +})
> > > +
> > >   #endif /* _LINUX_SWAIT_H */
> > > 
> > >    Luis
> > 
> > After replacing TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE with TASK_KILLABLE above it works for me.
> 
> Great, thanks for testing.
> 
>   Luis
> 

-- 
Luis Rodriguez, SUSE LINUX GmbH
Maxfeldstrasse 5; D-90409 Nuernberg

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-06 17:52 UTC|newest]

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     [not found] <20170524205658.GK8951@wotan.suse.de>
     [not found] ` <20170524214027.7775-1-mcgrof@kernel.org>
     [not found]   ` <CALCETrXUrirO-vg3M+MGhn=0gZTwx0phsRDS4TCwWWgNYC6RsA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-05-24 22:38     ` [PATCH v2] firmware: fix sending -ERESTARTSYS due to signal on fallback Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-25  4:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrU4__YUGk36PN=FbuEf0SBaTrxQQqm4sWs2NrZ+6WN7jA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-25  8:28           ` Fuzzey, Martin
2017-05-26 11:09             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <87fufr3mdy.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-26 19:46                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-26 21:26                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                     ` <CAKdAkRTrcTVOAP5GK-R=Au_tL5WqSn5UkQEzNe5NcCWXS8mbtA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-26 21:32                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-26 21:55                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-06-05 20:24                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                             ` <20170605202410.GQ8951-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06  9:04                               ` Martin Fuzzey
     [not found]                                 ` <59367025.3020901-mB3Nsq4MPf1BDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06 16:34                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                                     ` <20170606163401.GA27288-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06 17:52                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2017-06-06 14:53                               ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                                 ` <1496760796.5682.48.camel-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06 16:47                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                                     ` <20170606164734.GB27288-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-06 17:54                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-06 22:11                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                                       ` <20170606221151.ygoxqkwhhjsqw632-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-07  0:22                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                                           ` <20170607002237.GJ27288-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-07  4:56                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-06-07  6:25                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2017-06-07 12:25                                                 ` Alan Cox
2017-06-07 17:15                                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-09  1:14                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                                   ` <CALCETrXbHpkN9Pujj=U1VpAR9MTOyCAqCtL0=7-vb1EdpEwCMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-09  1:33                                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                                                       ` <CAB=NE6USSj0sBzJSFOyyRQu=0rQXdbHc2+GNk1fse+Y8H6TrgQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-09 21:29                                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]             ` <CANh8QzwPb_+RKs5QVt7mdFk8h_rOMVS3j9m0OADgvzBtNqBBLg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-26 19:40               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                 ` <20170526194001.GR8951-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-26 20:23                   ` Fuzzey, Martin
     [not found]                     ` <CANh8QzyqQ5hubWJvWYxgoQ3baL6sgoQPSzEHMY0tu8WNGS2gZA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-26 20:52                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-07 17:08               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-07 17:54                 ` Martin Fuzzey
     [not found]                   ` <59383DDA.3040702-mB3Nsq4MPf1BDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-09  1:10                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-09  1:57                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
     [not found]                         ` <CAB=NE6UQZMmLvxTu7RcFHh3neAh+RFpTTFCSwJ8_EsmmtEq94Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-09  7:40                           ` Martin Fuzzey
     [not found]                             ` <593A50FF.40604-mB3Nsq4MPf1BDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-09 21:12                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-09 22:55                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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