From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 12:59:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170809095957.kv47or2w4obaipkn@node.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1502117991.6577.13.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 10:59:51AM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 15:46 +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 07-08-17 15:22:57, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > This is an user visible API so make sure you CC linux-api (added)
> > >
> > > On Sun 06-08-17 10:04:23, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > A further complication is the proliferation of clone flags,
> > > > programs bypassing glibc's functions to call clone directly,
> > > > and programs calling unshare, causing the glibc pthread_atfork
> > > > hook to not get called.
> > > >
> > > > It would be better to have the kernel take care of this
> > > > automatically.
> > > >
> > > > This is similar to the OpenBSD minherit syscall with
> > > > MAP_INHERIT_ZERO:
> > > >
> > > > https://man.openbsd.org/minherit.2
> >
> > I would argue that a MAP_$FOO flag would be more appropriate. Or do
> > you
> > see any cases where such a special mapping would need to change the
> > semantic and inherit the content over the fork again?
> >
> > I do not like the madvise because it is an advise and as such it can
> > be
> > ignored/not implemented and that shouldn't have any correctness
> > effects
> > on the child process.
>
> Too late for that. VM_DONTFORK is already implemented
> through MADV_DONTFORK & MADV_DOFORK, in a way that is
> very similar to the MADV_WIPEONFORK from these patches.
It's not obvious to me what would break if kernel would ignore
MADV_DONTFORK or MADV_DONTDUMP.
--
Kirill A. Shutemov
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-09 9:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20170806140425.20937-1-riel@redhat.com>
2017-08-07 13:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170807132257.GH32434-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-07 13:46 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:19 ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:06 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:59 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <1502117991.6577.13.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-09 9:59 ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2017-08-09 12:31 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-09 12:42 ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:05 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170810130531.GS23863-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 13:23 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
[not found] ` <CAAF6GDc2hsj-XJj=Rx2ZF6Sh3Ke6nKewABXfqQxQjfDd5QN7Ug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 15:36 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 16:17 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
[not found] ` <CAAF6GDeno6RpHf1KORVSxUL7M-CQfbWFFdyKK8LAWd_6PcJ55Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 17:01 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170810170144.GA987-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 22:09 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
[not found] ` <CAAF6GDdFjS612mx1TXzaVk1J-Afz9wsAywTEijO2TG4idxabiw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:06 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170811140653.GO30811-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:11 ` Florian Weimer
[not found] ` <c8cda773-b28d-f35f-7f18-6735584cb173-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:24 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170811142457.GP30811-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 15:24 ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-11 15:31 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 15:55 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-07 16:02 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-10 13:21 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 14:11 ` Michal Hocko
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