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From: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-xfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-ext4-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:21:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171024212119.GB1611@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171024152415.22864-2-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 05:23:58PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> 
> The mmap(2) syscall suffers from the ABI anti-pattern of not validating
> unknown flags. However, proposals like MAP_SYNC need a mechanism to
> define new behavior that is known to fail on older kernels without the
> support. Define a new MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE flag pattern that is
> guaranteed to fail on all legacy mmap implementations.
> 
> It is worth noting that the original proposal was for a standalone
> MAP_VALIDATE flag. However, when that  could not be supported by all
> archs Linus observed:
> 
>     I see why you *think* you want a bitmap. You think you want
>     a bitmap because you want to make MAP_VALIDATE be part of MAP_SYNC
>     etc, so that people can do
> 
>     ret = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED
> 		    | MAP_SYNC, fd, 0);
> 
>     and "know" that MAP_SYNC actually takes.
> 
>     And I'm saying that whole wish is bogus. You're fundamentally
>     depending on special semantics, just make it explicit. It's already
>     not portable, so don't try to make it so.
> 
>     Rename that MAP_VALIDATE as MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, make it have a value
>     of 0x3, and make people do
> 
>     ret = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE, MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE
> 		    | MAP_SYNC, fd, 0);
> 
>     and then the kernel side is easier too (none of that random garbage
>     playing games with looking at the "MAP_VALIDATE bit", but just another
>     case statement in that map type thing.
> 
>     Boom. Done.
> 
> Similar to ->fallocate() we also want the ability to validate the
> support for new flags on a per ->mmap() 'struct file_operations'
> instance basis.  Towards that end arrange for flags to be generically
> validated against a mmap_supported_flags exported by 'struct
> file_operations'. By default all existing flags are implicitly
> supported, but new flags require MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE and
> per-instance-opt-in.
> 
> Cc: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
> Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
> Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
> Suggested-by: Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
> Suggested-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
> Signed-off-by: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>

Looks great.

Reviewed-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-24 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-24 15:23 [PATCH 0/17 v5] dax, ext4, xfs: Synchronous page faults Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24 ` [PATCH 04/17] dax: Factor out getting of pfn out of iomap Jan Kara
     [not found] ` <20171024152415.22864-1-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-24 15:23   ` [PATCH 01/17] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20171024152415.22864-2-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-24 21:21       ` Ross Zwisler [this message]
2017-10-24 15:23   ` [PATCH 02/17] mm: Remove VM_FAULT_HWPOISON_LARGE_MASK Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 03/17] dax: Simplify arguments of dax_insert_mapping() Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 05/17] dax: Create local variable for VMA in dax_iomap_pte_fault() Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 06/17] dax: Create local variable for vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE test Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 07/17] dax: Inline dax_insert_mapping() into the callsite Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 08/17] dax: Inline dax_pmd_insert_mapping() " Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 09/17] dax: Fix comment describing dax_iomap_fault() Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 10/17] dax: Allow dax_iomap_fault() to return pfn Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 12/17] mm: Define MAP_SYNC and VM_SYNC flags Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 13/17] dax, iomap: Add support for synchronous faults Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 15/17] ext4: Simplify error handling in ext4_dax_huge_fault() Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH 16/17] ext4: Support for synchronous DAX faults Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24   ` [PATCH] mmap.2: Add description of MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE and MAP_SYNC Jan Kara
2017-10-24 21:10     ` Ross Zwisler
2017-10-26 13:24       ` Jan Kara
     [not found]         ` <20171026132402.GB31161-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-26 18:22           ` Ross Zwisler
2017-10-24 15:24 ` [PATCH 11/17] dax: Allow tuning whether dax_insert_mapping_entry() dirties entry Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24 ` [PATCH 14/17] dax: Implement dax_finish_sync_fault() Jan Kara
2017-10-24 15:24 ` [PATCH 17/17] xfs: support for synchronous DAX faults Jan Kara
2017-10-24 21:29   ` Ross Zwisler
2017-10-24 22:23   ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-26 15:48     ` Jan Kara
     [not found]       ` <20171026154804.GF31161-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-26 21:16         ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-27 10:08           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]             ` <20171027100834.GH31161-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-31 15:19               ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                 ` <20171031151907.GB26128-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-31 21:50                   ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                     ` <CAPcyv4gBVyZ8KhB2s1M0BdhC1=HAean6Mb6oV7zsJBx0-t3bhw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-01  3:47                       ` Ross Zwisler
2017-10-27  6:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20171027064301.GC22931-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-27  9:13           ` Jan Kara
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-10-19 12:57 [PATCH 0/17 v4] dax, ext4, xfs: Synchronous page faults Jan Kara
     [not found] ` <20171019125817.11580-1-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 12:58   ` [PATCH 01/17] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20171019125817.11580-2-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-19 16:48       ` Dan Williams
2017-10-20  7:27     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20171020072707.GA18000-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-10-24 13:08         ` Jan Kara

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