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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
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	Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Darrick J . Wong"
	<darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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	Linux MM <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov"
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	Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/18] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 11:53:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171122195318.GA29485@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4gGRHWc6AH5Enb7njtmqHgd=g+0-mYMdd5wWjJMW0+d7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 08:52:37AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:02 AM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On 11/01/2017 04:36 PM, Jan Kara wrote:
> >> From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
> >>
> >> The mmap(2) syscall suffers from the ABI anti-pattern of not validating
> >> unknown flags. However, proposals like MAP_SYNC need a mechanism to
> >> define new behavior that is known to fail on older kernels without the
> >> support. Define a new MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE flag pattern that is
> >> guaranteed to fail on all legacy mmap implementations.
> >
> > So I'm trying to make sense of this together with Michal's attempt for
> > MAP_FIXED_SAFE [1] where he has to introduce a completely new flag
> > instead of flag modifier exactly for the reason of not validating
> > unknown flags. And my conclusion is that because MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE
> > implies MAP_SHARED and excludes MAP_PRIVATE, MAP_FIXED_SAFE as a
> > modifier cannot build on top of this. Wouldn't thus it be really better
> > long-term to introduce mmap3 at this point? ...
> 
> We have room to define MAP_PRIVATE_VALIDATE in MAP_TYPE on every arch
> except parisc. Can we steal an extra bit for MAP_TYPE from somewhere
> else on parisc?

It looks like 0x08 should work.  But I don't have an HPUX machine around
to check that HP didn't use that bit for something else.

It'd probably help to cc the linux-parisc mailing list when asking
questions about PARISC, eh?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-22 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-01 15:36 [PATCH 0/18 v6] dax, ext4, xfs: Synchronous page faults Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36 ` [PATCH 02/18] mm: Remove VM_FAULT_HWPOISON_LARGE_MASK Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36 ` [PATCH 04/18] dax: Factor out getting of pfn out of iomap Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36 ` [PATCH 08/18] dax: Inline dax_pmd_insert_mapping() into the callsite Jan Kara
     [not found] ` <20171101153648.30166-1-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 01/18] mm: introduce MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE, a mechanism to safely define new mmap flags Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20171101153648.30166-2-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 12:02       ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-22 16:52         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]           ` <CAPcyv4gGRHWc6AH5Enb7njtmqHgd=g+0-mYMdd5wWjJMW0+d7g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 19:53             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2017-11-25 18:45               ` Helge Deller
2017-11-27 15:55                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 03/18] dax: Simplify arguments of dax_insert_mapping() Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 05/18] dax: Create local variable for VMA in dax_iomap_pte_fault() Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 06/18] dax: Create local variable for vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_WRITE test Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 07/18] dax: Inline dax_insert_mapping() into the callsite Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 09/18] dax: Fix comment describing dax_iomap_fault() Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 10/18] dax: Allow dax_iomap_fault() to return pfn Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 11/18] dax: Allow tuning whether dax_insert_mapping_entry() dirties entry Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 12/18] mm: Define MAP_SYNC and VM_SYNC flags Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 13/18] dax, iomap: Add support for synchronous faults Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 14/18] dax: Implement dax_finish_sync_fault() Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 15/18] ext4: Simplify error handling in ext4_dax_huge_fault() Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 16/18] ext4: Support for synchronous DAX faults Jan Kara
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 17/18] xfs: Implement xfs_filemap_pfn_mkwrite() using __xfs_filemap_fault() Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20171101153648.30166-18-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-14  2:19       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH 18/18] xfs: support for synchronous DAX faults Jan Kara
2017-11-14  2:19     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-01 15:36   ` [PATCH] mmap.2: Add description of MAP_SHARED_VALIDATE and MAP_SYNC Jan Kara
     [not found]     ` <20171101153648.30166-20-jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-12 13:00       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]         ` <CAKgNAkhsFrcdkXNA2cw3o0gJV0uLRtBg9ybaCe5xy1QBC2PgqA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-12 14:00           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-04-12 14:22           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]             ` <20180412142214.fcxw3g2jxv6bvn7d-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-12 18:20               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                 ` <CAKgNAkgtVryFb81QgzwPq8SD241yKDN1xNxOWUUQH9QBYV13SA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-13 11:17                   ` Jan Kara

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