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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>,
	guillaume.knispel@supersonicimagine.com,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: semantics of rhashtable and sysvipc
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 11:52:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180523185213.oagftojqlh4rexa6@linux-n805> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwJtj5ucfx3T-g9VnNgWG7EqHS9+oFMSv8oyv11Yaa2UQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 23 May 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote:

>On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net> wrote:
>
>> Note that even if the allocation was guaranteed, there are still param
>validations
>> and rhashtable_init() can return -EINVAL.
>
>So?
>
>It's not going to happen, because you're not going to give garbage
>parameters.

Maybe EINVAL could be replaced with WARN_ON(). That would grab the programmer's
attention.

>
>Why would you add a BUG_ON() for something that cannot happen? You might as
>well sprinkle them randomly in every damn place.

Not suggesting this. Before I started the thread, I was actually thinking of
ipc using ENOMEM only for rhashtable_init() filure considering the EINVAL case
will never happen.

>
>And even if somebody screws up the parameters because they are being
>stupid, then SO WHAT? rhashtable_init() won't initialize the pointers, and
>we'll get a NULL pointer dereference.
>
>And hey, we'll probably get it later during boot, once the system is
>actually up and running, and that NULL pointer dereference might even get
>logged in the system logs now because the machine booted successfully, and
>mnaybe it will even get sent to a distro and debugged.
>
>So at what point was there _any_ advantage in doing a BUG_ON() for a crazy
>case?

For the record, I'm not arguing in favor of BUG_ON().

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-23 18:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-23 17:25 semantics of rhashtable and sysvipc Davidlohr Bueso
2018-05-23 17:35 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-05-23 18:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-23 18:31   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-05-23 18:52     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-23 18:52       ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2018-05-24 17:07   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-05-24 17:53     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-24 18:51       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2018-05-24 19:17         ` Linus Torvalds

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