From: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 10:29:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180703082955.GH3704@osiris> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180703081449.GT2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:14:49AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 10:30:09PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > Use "get_user()". It works for 64-bit objects too, and it will be
> > > atomic in the 32-bit sub-parts on a 32-bit architecture.
> >
> > Is it really ? Last time we had this discussion, not all architectures
> > guaranteed that reading a 64-bit integer would happen in two atomic
> > 32-bit sub-parts. This was the main motivation for the LINUX_FIELD_u32_u64()
> > macro as it stands today (rather than using a union).
>
> Just state, as a requirement for supporting rseq, that the arch
> {get,put}_user(u64) on 32bit targets must be exactly 2 u32 loads/stores.
>
> We're piece-wise enabling rseq across architectures anyway, and when the
> relevant maintains do this, they can have a look at their
> {get,put}_user() implementations and fix them.
>
> If you rely on get_user(u64) working, that means microblaze is already
> broken, but I suppose it already was, since their rseq enablement patch
> is extremely dodgy. Michal?
s390 uses the mvcos instruction to implement get_user(). That instruction
is not defined to be atomic, but may copy bytes piecemeal.. I had the
impression that the rseq fields are supposed to be updated within the
context of a single thread (user + kernel space).
However if another user space thread is allowed to do this as well, then
the get_user() approach won't fly on s390.
That leaves the question: does it even make sense for a thread to update
the rseq structure of a different thread?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-03 8:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-02 22:31 [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 22:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 1:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 2:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 2:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 8:29 ` Heiko Carstens [this message]
2018-07-03 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 8:55 ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03 9:17 ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 16:40 ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-03 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 17:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 19:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 18:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 0:19 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03 0:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 0:35 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03 1:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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