From: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 10:55:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180703085546.GJ3704@osiris> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180703084312.GU2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
> > > We're piece-wise enabling rseq across architectures anyway, and when the
> > > relevant maintains do this, they can have a look at their
> > > {get,put}_user() implementations and fix them.
> > >
> > > If you rely on get_user(u64) working, that means microblaze is already
> > > broken, but I suppose it already was, since their rseq enablement patch
> > > is extremely dodgy. Michal?
> >
> > s390 uses the mvcos instruction to implement get_user(). That instruction
> > is not defined to be atomic, but may copy bytes piecemeal.. I had the
> > impression that the rseq fields are supposed to be updated within the
> > context of a single thread (user + kernel space).
> >
> > However if another user space thread is allowed to do this as well, then
> > the get_user() approach won't fly on s390.
> >
> > That leaves the question: does it even make sense for a thread to update
> > the rseq structure of a different thread?
>
> The problem is interrupts; we need interrupts on the CPU doing the store
> to observe either the old or the new value, not a mix.
>
> If mvcos does not guarantee that, we're having problems. Is there a
> reason get_user() cannot use a 'regular' load?
Well, that's single instruction semantics. This is something we actually
can guarantee, since the mvcos instruction itself won't be interrupted and
copies all 1/2/4/8 bytes in a row.
So we are talking about that single instructions are required and not
atomic accesses?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-03 8:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-02 22:31 [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 22:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-02 23:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-02 23:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 1:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 2:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 2:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 2:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 8:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 8:29 ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 8:55 ` Heiko Carstens [this message]
2018-07-03 9:17 ` Heiko Carstens
2018-07-03 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 16:40 ` Andi Kleen
2018-07-03 17:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-03 17:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 17:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 17:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 18:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 19:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-03 18:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 18:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-03 0:19 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03 0:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-03 0:35 ` Christopher Lameter
2018-07-03 1:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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