From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Peter Zijlstra Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.18] rseq: use __u64 for rseq_cs fields, validate user inputs Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 19:48:33 +0200 Message-ID: <20180703174833.GZ2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <858886246.10882.1530583291379.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <20180703082955.GH3704@osiris> <20180703084312.GU2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180703085546.GJ3704@osiris> <20180703092113.GV2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <20180703164048.i2te5gjemcafqzwf@two.firstfloor.org> <20180703173451.GX2494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> <399697782.11820.1530639539750.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <399697782.11820.1530639539750.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Mathieu Desnoyers Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andi Kleen , heiko carstens , Andy Lutomirski , Thomas Gleixner , linux-kernel , linux-api , "Paul E. McKenney" , Boqun Feng , Dave Watson , Paul Turner , Andrew Morton , Russell King , Ingo Molnar , "H. Peter Anvin" , Chris Lameter , Ben Maurer , rostedt , Josh Triplett , Catalin Marinas , Will List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 01:38:59PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: > ----- On Jul 3, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@infradead.org wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 10:10:37AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 9:40 AM Andi Kleen wrote: > >> > > >> > So it sounds like architectures that don't have an instruction atomic u64 > >> > *_user need to disable interrupts during the access, and somehow handle that > >> > case when a page fault happens? > >> > >> No. It's actually the store by *user* space that is the critical one. > >> Not the whole 64-bit value, just the low pointer part. > >> > >> The kernel could do it as a byte-by-byte load, really. It's > >> per-thread, and once the kernel is running, it's not going to change. > >> The kernel never changes the value, it just loads it from user space. > > > > The kernel doesn't change _this_ value, but the kernel does change other > > values, like for instance rseq->cpu_id. But even there, it could use > > byte stores and it is again the userspace load of that field that is > > critical again and needs to be a single op. > > I can simply document that loads/stores from/to all struct rseq fields > should be thread-local then ? I'm not sure that covers things sufficiently. You really want the userspace load/stores to be single instructions. Also, I think it was rseq_update_cpu_id() where we wanted to use a single u64 store if possible but you worried about the stores.