From: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: "Daniel Colascione" <dancol@google.com>,
"Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
"Joel Fernandes" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Sultan Alsawaf" <sultan@kerneltoast.com>,
"Tim Murray" <timmurray@google.com>,
"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
"Todd Kjos" <tkjos@android.com>,
"Martijn Coenen" <maco@android.com>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:ANDROID DRIVERS" <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
kernel-team <kernel-team@android.com>,
"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
Subject: Re: pidfd design
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 00:45:48 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190325234547.wo6lyimrp52qie5p@brauner.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV-52TXKbAim06Fr7vvFeOvk0SczneeV_Rtqr6-LN7-GQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 04:42:14PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 1:23 PM Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 1:14 PM Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 8:44 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > > One ioctl on procfs roots to translate pidfds into that procfs,
> > > subject to both the normal lookup permission checks and only working
> > > if the pidfd has a translation into the procfs:
> > >
> > > int proc_root_fd = open("/proc", O_RDONLY);
> > > int proc_dir_fd = ioctl(proc_root_fd, PROC_PIDFD_TO_PROCFSFD, pidfd);
> > >
> > > And one ioctl on procfs directories to translate from PGIDs and PIDs to pidfds:
> > >
> > > int proc_pgid_fd = open("/proc/self", O_RDONLY);
> > > int self_pg_pidfd = ioctl(proc_pgid_fd, PROC_PROCFSFD_TO_PIDFD, 0);
> > > int proc_pid_fd = open("/proc/thread-self", O_RDONLY);
> > > int self_p_pidfd = ioctl(proc_pid_fd, PROC_PROCFSFD_TO_PIDFD, 0);
> > >
>
> This sounds okay to me. Or we could make it so that a procfs
> directory fd also works as a pidfd, but that seems more likely to be
> problematic than just allowing two-way translation like this
>
> > >
> > > And then, as you proposed, the new sys_clone() can just return a
> > > pidfd, and you can convert it into a procfs fd yourself if you want.
> >
> > I think that's the consensus we reached on the other thread. The
> > O_DIRECTORY open on /proc/self/fd/mypidfd seems like it'd work well
> > enough.
>
> I must have missed this particular email.
>
> IMO, if /proc/self/fd/mypidfd allows O_DIRECTORY open to work, then it
> really ought to do function just like /proc/self/fd/mypidfd/. and
> /proc/self/fd/mypidfd/status should work. And these latter two
> options seem nutty.
>
> Also, this O_DIRECTORY thing is missing the entire point of the ioctl
> interface -- it doesn't require procfs access.
The other option was to encode the pid in the callers pid namespace into
the pidfd's fdinfo so that you can parse it out and open /proc/<pid>.
You'd just need an event on the pidfd to tell you when the process has
died. Jonathan and I just discussed this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-03-25 23:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20190319231020.tdcttojlbmx57gke@brauner.io>
[not found] ` <20190320015249.GC129907@google.com>
[not found] ` <CAKOZuetJzg_EiyuK7Pa13X3LKuBbreg7zJ5g4uQv_uV4wpmZjg@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20190320035953.mnhax3vd47ya4zzm@brauner.io>
[not found] ` <CAKOZuet3-VhmC3oHtEbPPvdiar_k_QXTf0TkgmH9LiwmW-_oNA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <4A06C5BB-9171-4E70-BE31-9574B4083A9F@joelfernandes.org>
[not found] ` <20190320182649.spryp5uaeiaxijum@brauner.io>
[not found] ` <CAKOZuevHbQtrq+Nb-jw1L7O72BmAzcXmbUnfnseeXZjX4PE4tg@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20190320185156.7bq775vvtsxqlzfn@brauner.io>
[not found] ` <CALCETrXO=V=+qEdLDVPf8eCgLZiB9bOTrUfe0V-U-tUZoeoRDA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20190320191412.5ykyast3rgotz3nu@brauner.io>
[not found] ` <CAKOZuesRwQ4=Svu1KgHWY=HZSS8mF8uFmuzuVOSH0QpJoy7a5w@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CALCETrUFrFKC2YTLH7ViM_7XPYk3LNmNiaz6s8wtWo1pmJQXzg@mail.gmail.com>
2019-03-25 20:13 ` pidfd design Jann Horn
2019-03-25 20:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2019-03-25 23:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-25 23:45 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2019-03-26 0:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-26 0:12 ` Christian Brauner
2019-03-26 0:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-03-28 9:21 ` Christian Brauner
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20190325234547.wo6lyimrp52qie5p@brauner.io \
--to=christian@brauner.io \
--cc=arve@android.com \
--cc=dancol@google.com \
--cc=devel@driverdev.osuosl.org \
--cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
--cc=jannh@google.com \
--cc=joel@joelfernandes.org \
--cc=kernel-team@android.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=luto@kernel.org \
--cc=maco@android.com \
--cc=mhocko@kernel.org \
--cc=mingo@redhat.com \
--cc=oleg@redhat.com \
--cc=peterz@infradead.org \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=serge@hallyn.com \
--cc=sultan@kerneltoast.com \
--cc=surenb@google.com \
--cc=timmurray@google.com \
--cc=tkjos@android.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox