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From: Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/madvise: allow KSM hints for remote API
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2020 09:45:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200121174501.GD140922@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200117123400.o3ne6kazkovq4okd-1pX4wqAwPg9Bd2nDH4ldLLp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 01:34:00PM +0100, Oleksandr Natalenko wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 01:13:14PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> > On 17.01.2020 02:59, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > From: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > > 
> > > It all began with the fact that KSM works only on memory that is marked
> > > by madvise(). And the only way to get around that is to either:
> > > 
> > >   * use LD_PRELOAD; or
> > >   * patch the kernel with something like UKSM or PKSM.
> > > 
> > > (i skip ptrace can of worms here intentionally)
> > > 
> > > To overcome this restriction, lets employ a new remote madvise API. This
> > > can be used by some small userspace helper daemon that will do auto-KSM
> > > job for us.
> > > 
> > > I think of two major consumers of remote KSM hints:
> > > 
> > >   * hosts, that run containers, especially similar ones and especially in
> > >     a trusted environment, sharing the same runtime like Node.js;
> > > 
> > >   * heavy applications, that can be run in multiple instances, not
> > >     limited to opensource ones like Firefox, but also those that cannot be
> > >     modified since they are binary-only and, maybe, statically linked.
> > > 
> > > Speaking of statistics, more numbers can be found in the very first
> > > submission, that is related to this one [1]. For my current setup with
> > > two Firefox instances I get 100 to 200 MiB saved for the second instance
> > > depending on the amount of tabs.
> > > 
> > > 1 FF instance with 15 tabs:
> > > 
> > >    $ echo "$(cat /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_sharing) * 4 / 1024" | bc
> > >    410
> > > 
> > > 2 FF instances, second one has 12 tabs (all the tabs are different):
> > > 
> > >    $ echo "$(cat /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_sharing) * 4 / 1024" | bc
> > >    592
> > > 
> > > At the very moment I do not have specific numbers for containerised
> > > workload, but those should be comparable in case the containers share
> > > similar/same runtime.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1012142/
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > > ---
> > >  mm/madvise.c | 2 ++
> > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> > > index 84cffd0900f1..89557998d287 100644
> > > --- a/mm/madvise.c
> > > +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> > > @@ -1000,6 +1000,8 @@ process_madvise_behavior_valid(int behavior)
> > >  	switch (behavior) {
> > >  	case MADV_COLD:
> > >  	case MADV_PAGEOUT:
> > > +	case MADV_MERGEABLE:
> > > +	case MADV_UNMERGEABLE:
> > >  		return true;
> > >  	default:
> > >  		return false;
> > 
> > Remote madvise on KSM parameters should be OK.
> > 
> > One thing is madvise_behavior_valid() places MADV_MERGEABLE/UNMERGEABLE
> > in #ifdef brackes, so -EINVAL is returned by madvise() syscall if KSM
> > is not enabled. Here we should follow the same way for symmetry.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> Minchan, shall you adopt it directly, or I should send a separate patch?

I will handle it in next spin.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-01-21 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-16 23:59 [PATCH v2 0/5] introduce memory hinting API for external process Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: factor out madvise's core functionality Minchan Kim
     [not found]   ` <20200116235953.163318-2-minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-17 10:02     ` Kirill Tkhai
     [not found]       ` <d3b8431d-fa3d-6a16-8af1-a68b3ac8ca58-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-17 18:14         ` Minchan Kim
     [not found] ` <20200116235953.163318-1-minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-16 23:59   ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: introduce external memory hinting API Minchan Kim
     [not found]     ` <20200116235953.163318-3-minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-17 11:52       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]         ` <20200117115225.GV19428-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-17 15:58           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-17 17:32             ` Minchan Kim
     [not found]               ` <20200117173239.GB140922-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-17 21:26                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-18  9:40                   ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-19 16:14                   ` sspatil-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA
2020-01-20  7:58                     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                       ` <20200120075825.GH18451-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-20 10:39                         ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 18:32                       ` Minchan Kim
     [not found]                         ` <20200121183212.GF140922-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-22  8:28                           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                             ` <20200122082853.GS29276-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-22  9:36                               ` SeongJae Park
     [not found]                                 ` <20200122093624.14799-1-sjpark-vV1OtcyAfmbQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-22 10:02                                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                                     ` <20200122100233.GT29276-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-22 13:28                                       ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-23  1:41                               ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-23  9:13                                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-21 18:11                   ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-22 10:44                     ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-01-23  1:43                       ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-23  7:29                         ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-01-17 17:25           ` Minchan Kim
     [not found]             ` <20200117172542.GA140922-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-20  8:03               ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 10:24           ` Kirill Tkhai
     [not found]             ` <f57fb198-4070-d3b4-b6bd-43b29ff40a2c-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-20 11:27               ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 12:39                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-20 13:24                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 14:21                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-20 15:44                       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20200120132405.GF18451-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-21 18:43                       ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm/madvise: employ mmget_still_valid for write lock Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/madvise: allow KSM hints for remote API Minchan Kim
     [not found]   ` <20200116235953.163318-5-minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-17 10:13     ` Kirill Tkhai
     [not found]       ` <37338e14-5a55-1926-b6c1-5f98b6a6fdb5-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-17 12:34         ` Oleksandr Natalenko
     [not found]           ` <20200117123400.o3ne6kazkovq4okd-1pX4wqAwPg9Bd2nDH4ldLLp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2020-01-21 17:45             ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm: support both pid and pidfd for process_madvise Minchan Kim

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