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From: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
To: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	metze@samba.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Have RESOLVE_* flags superseded AT_* flags for new syscalls?
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2020 02:24:58 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200302152458.hznqqssixhlpykgr@yavin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200302150528.okjdx2mkluicje4w@wittgenstein>

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On 2020-03-02, Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 02:50:03PM +0000, David Howells wrote:
> > Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > I think we settled this and can agree on RESOLVE_NO_SYMLINKS being the
> > > right thing to do, i.e. not resolving symlinks will stay opt-in.
> > > Or is your worry even with the current semantics of openat2()? I don't
> > > see the issue since O_NOFOLLOW still works with openat2().
> > 
> > Say, for example, my home dir is on a network volume somewhere and /home has a
> > symlink pointing to it.  RESOLVE_NO_SYMLINKS cannot be used to access a file
> > inside my homedir if the pathwalk would go through /home/dhowells - this would
> > affect fsinfo() - so RESOLVE_NO_SYMLINKS is not a substitute for
> > AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW (O_NOFOLLOW would not come into it).
> 
> I think we didn't really have this issue/face that question because
> openat() never supported AT_SYMLINK_{NO}FOLLOW. Whereas e.g. fsinfo()
> does. So in such cases we are back to: either allow both AT_* and
> RESOLVE_* flags (imho not the best option) or add (a) new RESOLVE_*
> variant(s). It seems we leaned toward the latter so far...

So, RESOLVE_NO_TRAILING_SYMLINKS?

... *sigh*. Yeah, okay I'm fine (though not super happy) with that. We'd
also presumably need RESOLVE_NO_TRAILING_AUTOMOUNTS for David's
AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT usecases -- as well as RESOLVE_NO_AUTOMOUNTS eventually.

Now let's just hope no new syscalls need both AT_RECURSIVE and
RESOLVE_NO_SYMLINKS -- that will put us in a very interesting situation
where you have two ways of specifying "don't follow trailing
symlinks"...

-- 
Aleksa Sarai
Senior Software Engineer (Containers)
SUSE Linux GmbH
<https://www.cyphar.com/>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-02 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-28 14:53 Have RESOLVE_* flags superseded AT_* flags for new syscalls? David Howells
2020-02-28 15:24 ` Christian Brauner
2020-02-29 15:26   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-02-29 15:54     ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-01 16:46       ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-01 16:38     ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 11:30   ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-02 11:52     ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 12:05       ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 15:10         ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 15:36           ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-02 16:31             ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 12:09       ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-02 12:19         ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 12:35           ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 12:42             ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-02 12:55               ` Christian Brauner
     [not found]               ` <20200305141154.e246swv62rnctite@yavin>
2020-03-05 15:23                 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-05 14:33             ` David Howells
2020-03-05 14:38               ` Florian Weimer
2020-03-05 14:43               ` David Howells
2020-03-02 14:27     ` David Howells
2020-03-02 14:35       ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 14:50       ` David Howells
2020-03-02 15:05         ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-02 15:24           ` Aleksa Sarai [this message]
2020-03-02 16:37           ` David Howells
2020-03-06 14:48             ` David Howells
2020-03-02 15:10         ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-03-02 15:23         ` David Howells
2020-03-02 14:30   ` David Howells
2020-03-02 15:04     ` Aleksa Sarai

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