From: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
To: Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] seccomp: Add group_leader pid to seccomp_notif
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 14:45:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200518124500.5cb7rtjitbiiw3mq@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200518083224.GA16270@ircssh-2.c.rugged-nimbus-611.internal>
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 08:32:25AM +0000, Sargun Dhillon wrote:
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 02:30:57PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 09:02:15AM -0600, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > 
> > I'm going read this thread more carefully tomorrow, but I just wanted to
> > mention that I'd *like* to extend seccomp_data for doing deep argument
> > inspection of the new syscalls. I think it's the least bad of many
> > designs, and I'll write that up in more detail. (I would *really* like
> > to avoid extending seccomp's BPF language, and instead allow probing
> > into the struct copied from userspace, etc.)
> > 
> > Anyway, it's very related to this, so, yeah, probably we need a v2 of the
> > notif API, but I'll try to get all the ideas here collected in one place.
> I scratched together a proposal of what I think would make a not-terrible
> V2 API. I'm sure there's bugs in this code, but I think it's workable --
> or at least a place to start. The biggest thing I think we should consider
> is unrolling seccomp_data if we don't intend to add new BPF-accessible
> fields.
> 
> If also uses read(2), so we get to take advantage of read(2)'s ability
> to pass a size along with the read, as opposed to doing ioctl tricks.
> It also makes programming from against it slightly simpler. I can imagine
> that the send API could be similar, in that it could support write, and
> thus making it 100% usable from Go (and the like) without requiring
> a separate OS-thread be spun up to interact with the listener.
I don't have strong feelings about using read() and write() here but I
think that Jann had reservations and that's why we didn't do it in the
first version. But his reservations were specifically tied to fd passing
which we never implemented:
http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1806.2/05995.html
But still, worth considering.
Christian
next prev parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-18 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-15 23:40 [PATCH] seccomp: Add group_leader pid to seccomp_notif Sargun Dhillon
2020-05-17  7:17 ` Kees Cook
2020-05-17 10:47   ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-17 11:21     ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-05-17 14:23       ` Tycho Andersen
2020-05-17 14:33         ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-17 14:35           ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-17 14:46           ` Tycho Andersen
2020-05-17 15:02             ` Tycho Andersen
2020-05-17 21:30               ` Kees Cook
2020-05-18  8:32                 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-05-18 12:45                   ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2020-05-18 13:23                     ` Tycho Andersen
2020-05-18 14:00                       ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-18 12:05                 ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-18 21:10                 ` Kees Cook
2020-05-18 12:53               ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-18 13:20                 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-05-18 21:37                 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-05-17 11:17   ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-05-18 23:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-05-22 17:54   ` Sargun Dhillon
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