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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC]: mm,power: introduce MADV_WIPEONSUSPEND
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 00:34:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200703223453.GA25072@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez2O2z4L=n57Omwy6s1sWQkdTkPKiikhbfdVhiyd_TGRRw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri 2020-07-03 15:29:22, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:30 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri 03-07-20 10:34:09, Catangiu, Adrian Costin wrote:
> > > This patch adds logic to the kernel power code to zero out contents of
> > > all MADV_WIPEONSUSPEND VMAs present in the system during its transition
> > > to any suspend state equal or greater/deeper than Suspend-to-memory,
> > > known as S3.
> >
> > How does the application learn that its memory got wiped? S2disk is an
> > async operation and it can happen at any time during the task execution.
> > So how does the application work to prevent from corrupted state - e.g.
> > when suspended between two memory loads?
> 
> You can do it seqlock-style, kind of - you reserve the first byte of
> the page or so as a "is this page initialized" marker, and after every
> read from the page, you do a compiler barrier and check whether that
> byte has been

That would also need smp cpu barriers, and guarantee that first byte
is always ... cleared first, and matching barriers in kernel space,
too, no?

Best regards,
									Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-03 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-03 10:34 [RFC]: mm,power: introduce MADV_WIPEONSUSPEND Catangiu, Adrian Costin
2020-07-03 11:04 ` Jann Horn
2020-07-04  1:33   ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2020-07-06 12:09   ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-03 11:30 ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03 12:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-07-03 22:39     ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-03 13:29   ` Jann Horn
2020-07-03 22:34     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2020-07-03 22:53       ` Jann Horn
2020-07-07  7:38     ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-07  8:07       ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-07  8:58         ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-07 16:37           ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]             ` <E6B41570-E206-4458-921B-465B9EF74949@amazon.com>
2020-07-12  7:22               ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-13  8:02                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-04  1:45   ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2020-07-07  7:40     ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03 22:44 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-03 22:56   ` Jann Horn
2020-07-04 11:48     ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-06 12:26       ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-06 12:52         ` Jann Horn
2020-07-06 13:14           ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-07  7:44           ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-07  8:01             ` Alexander Graf
2020-07-07  9:14               ` Michal Hocko

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