From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: "Adalbert Lazăr" <alazar@bitdefender.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Alexander Graf" <graf@amazon.com>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Mihai Donțu" <mdontu@bitdefender.com>,
"Mircea Cirjaliu" <mcirjaliu@bitdefender.com>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Sargun Dhillon" <sargun@sargun.me>,
"Aleksa Sarai" <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@redhat.com>, "Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Christian Brauner" <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND RFC PATCH 0/5] Remote mapping
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 16:49:11 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200904194911.GA87483@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200904194139.GA5881@casper.infradead.org>
On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 08:41:39PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 09:11:48AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 02:31:11PM +0300, Adalbert Lazăr wrote:
> > > VMAs obtained by mmap()ing memory access fds mirror the contents of the remote
> > > process address space within the specified range. Pages are installed in the
> > > current process page tables at fault time and removed by the mmu_interval_notifier
> > > invalidate callbck. No further memory management is involved.
> > > On attempts to access a hole, or if a mapping was removed by PIDFD_MEM_UNMAP,
> > > or if the remote process address space was reaped by OOM, the remote mapping
> > > fault handler returns VM_FAULT_SIGBUS.
> >
> > I still think anything along these lines needs to meet the XPMEM use
> > cases as well, we have to have more general solutions for such MM
> > stuff:
> >
> > https://gitlab.com/hjelmn/xpmem
> >
> > However, I think this fundamentally falls into some of the same bad
> > direction as xpmem.
> >
> > I would much rather see this design copy & clone the VMA's than try to
> > mirror the PTEs inside the VMAs from the remote into a single giant
> > VMA and somehow split/mirror the VMA ops.
>
> I'm on holiday for the next few days, but does the mshare() API work for
> your use case?
>
> Proposal: http://www.wil.cx/~willy/linux/sileby.html
> Start at implementation:
> http://git.infradead.org/users/willy/linux.git/shortlog/refs/heads/mshare
Let me ask around, it seems in a similar space at least!
Thanks,
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-04 19:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-04 11:31 [RESEND RFC PATCH 0/5] Remote mapping Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: add atomic capability to zap_details Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 2/5] mm: let the VMA decide how zap_pte_range() acts on mapped pages Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/mmu_notifier: remove lockdep map, allow mmu notifier to be used in nested scenarios Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 12:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/remote_mapping: use a pidfd to access memory belonging to unrelated process Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 17:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-07 14:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-07 15:16 ` Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-09 8:32 ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-10 16:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-09-07 15:02 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-07 16:04 ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 11:31 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 5/5] pidfd_mem: implemented remote memory mapping system call Adalbert Lazăr
2020-09-04 19:18 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-07 14:55 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-04 12:11 ` [RESEND RFC PATCH 0/5] Remote mapping Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 13:24 ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 13:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 14:18 ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 14:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 15:40 ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-04 16:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 19:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-04 19:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-09-04 20:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-12-01 18:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-04 19:19 ` Florian Weimer
2020-09-04 20:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-07 8:33 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-04 19:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-04 20:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-04 20:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-04 21:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-04 23:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-05 18:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-07 8:38 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-07 12:41 ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-07 7:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-07 8:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-09-07 10:25 ` Mircea CIRJALIU - MELIU
2020-09-07 15:05 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-07 20:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-09 11:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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