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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-team <kernel-team@android.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/madvise: allow process_madvise operations on entire memory range
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 13:44:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201222134438.GA7170@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez0UKYCdgyW91SmOcT52vbLFz9RjLpaucWpj6bTrgQCwnA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 09:27:46PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> > Can we just use one element in iovec to indicate entire address rather
> > than using up the reserved flags?
> >
> >         struct iovec {
> >                 .iov_base = NULL,
> >                 .iov_len = (~(size_t)0),
> >         };
> 
> In addition to Suren's objections, I think it's also worth considering
> how this looks in terms of compat API. If a compat process does
> process_madvise() on another compat process, it would be specifying
> the maximum 32-bit number, rather than the maximum 64-bit number, so
> you'd need special code to catch that case, which would be ugly.
> 
> And when a compat process uses this API on a non-compat process, it
> semantically gets really weird: The actual address range covered would
> be larger than the address range specified.
> 
> And if we want different access checks for the two flavors in the
> future, gating that different behavior on special values in the iovec
> would feel too magical to me.
> 
> And the length value SIZE_MAX doesn't really make sense anyway because
> the length of the whole address space would be SIZE_MAX+1, which you
> can't express.
> 
> So I'm in favor of a new flag, and strongly against using SIZE_MAX as
> a magic number here.

Yes, using SIZE_MAX is a horrible interface in this case.  I'm not
a huge fan of a flag either.  What is the use case for the madvise
to all of a processes address space anyway?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-12-22 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-24  5:39 [PATCH 0/2] userspace memory reaping using process_madvise Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-24  5:39 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/madvise: allow process_madvise operations on entire memory range Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-25 23:13   ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-25 23:23     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-25 23:43       ` Minchan Kim
2020-11-30 19:01         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-12-08  7:23           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-12-11 20:27     ` Jann Horn
2020-12-11 23:01       ` Minchan Kim
2020-12-12  0:16         ` Jann Horn
2020-12-22 13:44       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-12-22 17:48         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-12-23  4:09           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-12-23  7:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-12-23 17:32             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-24  5:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/madvise: add process_madvise MADV_DONTNEER support Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-11-24 13:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-11-24 16:42     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2020-12-08 23:40   ` Jann Horn
2020-12-08 23:59     ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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