From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
"H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: x86 CPU features detection for applications (and AMX)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2021 18:56:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210708175655.GA33786@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tulo39ms.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 05:04:27PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
Copying in Catalin & Will.
> We have an interface in glibc to query CPU features:
> X86-specific Facilities
> <https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/X86.html>
> CPU_FEATURE_USABLE all preconditions for a feature are met,
> HAS_CPU_FEATURE means it's in silicon but possibly dormant.
> CPU_FEATURE_USABLE is supposed to look at XCR0, AT_HWCAP2 etc. before
> enabling the relevant bit (so it cannot pass through any unknown bits).
...
> When we designed this glibc interface, we assumed that bits would be
> static during the life-time of the process, initialized at process
> start. That follows the model of previous x86 CPU feature enablement.
...
> This still wouldn't cover the enable/disable side, but at least it would
> work for CPU features which are modal and come and go. The fact that we
> tell GCC to cache the returned pointer from that internal function, but
> not that the data is immutable works to our advantage here.
> On the other hand, maybe there is a way to give users a better
> interface. Obviously we want to avoid a syscall for a simple CPU
> feature check. And we also need something to enable/disable CPU
> features.
This enabling and disabling of CPU features sounds like something that
might also become relevant for arm64, for example I can see a use case
for having something that allows some of the more expensive features
to be masked from some userspace processes for resource management
purposes. This sounds like a bit of a different use case to x86 AIUI
but I think there's overlap in the actual operations that would be
needed.
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-23 15:04 x86 CPU features detection for applications (and AMX) Florian Weimer
2021-06-23 15:32 ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 6:05 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 14:19 ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 14:31 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 14:36 ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 14:41 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-25 23:31 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 12:40 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-28 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-30 12:50 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-30 15:36 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-07-01 7:35 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-28 15:08 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 15:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 16:13 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 17:23 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 19:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 19:26 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 19:05 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-30 14:32 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-30 14:34 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-30 15:16 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-06-30 15:38 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-01 8:08 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-07-01 8:21 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-01 11:59 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-07-06 12:57 ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-30 15:29 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-07-01 11:57 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2021-07-08 7:08 ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 15:13 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-07-08 17:56 ` Mark Brown [this message]
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