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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Tycho Andersen <tandersen@netflix.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] pidfd: implement PIDFD_THREAD flag for pidfd_open()
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 20:14:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240131191405.GF2609@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240131184829.GE2609@redhat.com>

Forgot to mention...

And I agree that pidfd_send_signal(flags => PGID/SID) can make
some sense too.

But this a) doesn't depend on PIDFD_THREAD, and b) needs another
patch/discussion.

But again, I am not sure I understood you correctly.

On 01/31, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 01/31, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >
> > Right now, pidfd_send_signal() sends signals to processes, like so:
> >
> >  * The syscall currently only signals via PIDTYPE_PID which covers
> >  * kill(<positive-pid>, <signal>. It does not signal threads or process
> >  * groups.
> >
> > This patch adds PIDFD_THREAD which, potentially confusingly, doesn't
> > change this (AFAICS).
>
> Yes,
>
> > So at least that should be documented loudly
> > and clearly, IMO.
>
> Please note
>
> 	/* TODO: respect PIDFD_THREAD */
>
> this patch adds into pidfd_send_signal().
>
> See also this part of discussion
>
> 	> > +	/* TODO: respect PIDFD_THREAD */
> 	>
> 	> So I've been thinking about this at the end of last week. Do we need to
> 	> give userspace a way to send a thread-group wide signal even when a
> 	> PIDFD_THREAD pidfd is passed? Or should we just not worry about this
> 	> right now and wait until someone needs this?
>
> 	I don't know. I am fine either way, but I think this needs a separate
> 	patch and another discussion in any case. Anyway should be trivial,
> 	pidfd_send_signal() has the "flags" argument.
>
> with Christian in https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240130112126.GA26108@redhat.com/
>
> Or did I misunderstand you?
>
> Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-23 15:34 [PATCH v3 0/3] pidfds for non thread group leaders Tycho Andersen
2024-01-23 15:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] pidfd: allow pidfd_open() on non-thread-group leaders Tycho Andersen
2024-01-23 19:56   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-23 21:10     ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-23 22:22       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-24  1:25         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-25 14:08       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-25 17:17         ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-25 17:51           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-25 18:03             ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-25 18:25               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-25 18:30                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-25 18:36                   ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-26  9:49                     ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-26  9:42             ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-26 14:33               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-26  9:47         ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-26 14:33           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-27 14:26             ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-26 21:50         ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-27 10:54           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-27 14:33             ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-27 15:55             ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-27 16:31               ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-27 17:20                 ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-27 19:31                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-27 20:44                     ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-27 21:10                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-29 11:23                         ` [RFC PATCH] pidfd: implement PIDFD_THREAD flag for pidfd_open() Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-29 13:41                           ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-29 14:31                             ` Tycho Andersen
2024-01-29 15:14                               ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-30 11:21                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-31 18:11                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-01-31 18:48                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-01-31 19:14                               ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-01-31 19:24                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-01-31 19:46                                   ` Christian Brauner
2024-01-31 19:50                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-02-01 13:30                                       ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 13:39                                         ` Christian Brauner
2024-02-01 19:33                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-01-23 15:34 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] selftests/pidfd: add non-thread-group leader tests Tycho Andersen
2024-01-23 15:34 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] clone: allow CLONE_THREAD | CLONE_PIDFD together Tycho Andersen

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