From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Eyal Birger <eyal.birger@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] seccomp: passthrough uretprobe systemcall without filtering
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2025 13:40:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250119123955.GA5281@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202501181212.4C515DA02@keescook>
On 01/18, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 04:55:39PM -0800, Eyal Birger wrote:
> > Since uretprobe is a "kernel implementation detail" system call which is
> > not used by userspace application code directly, it is impractical and
> > there's very little point in forcing all userspace applications to
> > explicitly allow it in order to avoid crashing tracked processes.
>
> How is this any different from sigreturn, rt_sigreturn, or
> restart_syscall? These are all handled explicitly by userspace filters
> already, and I don't see why uretprobe should be any different.
The only difference is that sys_uretprobe() is new and existing setups
doesn't know about it. Suppose you have
int func(void)
{
return 123;
}
int main(void)
{
seccomp(SECCOMP_SET_MODE_STRICT, 0,0);
for (;;)
func();
}
and it runs with func() uretprobed.
If you install the new kernel, this application will crash immediately.
I understand your objections, but what do you think we can do instead?
I don't think a new "try_to_speedup_uretprobes_at_your_own_risk" sysctl
makes sense, it will be almost never enabled...
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-19 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-17 0:55 [PATCH] seccomp: passthrough uretprobe systemcall without filtering Eyal Birger
2025-01-17 1:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-17 8:02 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-01-17 13:36 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-17 14:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-17 17:51 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-17 19:24 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-17 19:34 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-18 15:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-17 18:34 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2025-01-17 18:52 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-18 20:21 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-18 20:31 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-01-18 20:45 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-19 2:24 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-19 3:39 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-19 10:44 ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-20 21:34 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-27 19:24 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-27 19:33 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-27 19:39 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-27 19:43 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-21 14:38 ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-21 14:47 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-21 16:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-21 16:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-01-21 16:55 ` Jiri Olsa
2025-01-21 22:38 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-01-21 22:46 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-21 23:13 ` Eyal Birger
2025-01-21 23:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-19 18:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2025-01-19 12:40 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-01-20 21:32 ` Kees Cook
2025-01-21 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
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