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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jack@suse.cz,
	cem@kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	dchinner@redhat.com, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ojaswin@linux.ibm.com,
	ritesh.list@gmail.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	catherine.hoang@oracle.com, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 15/15] xfs: allow sysadmins to specify a maximum atomic write limit at mount time
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2025 08:01:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250423150110.GB25675@frogsfrogsfrogs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250423083209.GA30432@lst.de>

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 10:32:09AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 12:27:39PM +0000, John Garry wrote:
> > From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
> > 
> > Introduce a mount option to allow sysadmins to specify the maximum size
> > of an atomic write.  If the filesystem can work with the supplied value,
> > that becomes the new guaranteed maximum.
> > 
> > The value mustn't be too big for the existing filesystem geometry (max
> > write size, max AG/rtgroup size).  We dynamically recompute the
> > tr_atomic_write transaction reservation based on the given block size,
> > check that the current log size isn't less than the new minimum log size
> > constraints, and set a new maximum.
> > 
> > The actual software atomic write max is still computed based off of
> > tr_atomic_ioend the same way it has for the past few commits.
> 
> The cap is a good idea, but a mount option for something that has
> strong effects for persistent application formats is a little suboptimal.
> But adding a sb field and an incompat bit wouldn't be great either.
> 
> Maybe this another use case for a trusted xattr on the root inode like
> the autofsck flag?

That would be even better, since you could set it at mkfs time and it
would persist until the next xfs_property set call.

--D

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-23 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-22 12:27 [PATCH v8 00/15] large atomic writes for xfs John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 01/15] fs: add atomic write unit max opt to statx John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 02/15] xfs: add helpers to compute log item overhead John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 03/15] xfs: add helpers to compute transaction reservation for finishing intent items John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 04/15] xfs: rename xfs_inode_can_atomicwrite() -> xfs_inode_can_hw_atomicwrite() John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 05/15] xfs: ignore HW which cannot atomic write a single block John Garry
2025-04-23  0:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-04-23  7:15     ` John Garry
2025-04-23  8:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23  8:28         ` John Garry
2025-04-23  8:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23 15:12             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-04-23 15:46               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 06/15] xfs: allow block allocator to take an alignment hint John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 07/15] xfs: refactor xfs_reflink_end_cow_extent() John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 08/15] xfs: refine atomic write size check in xfs_file_write_iter() John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 09/15] xfs: add xfs_atomic_write_cow_iomap_begin() John Garry
2025-04-23  8:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 10/15] xfs: add large atomic writes checks in xfs_direct_write_iomap_begin() John Garry
2025-04-23  8:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23  8:18     ` John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 11/15] xfs: commit CoW-based atomic writes atomically John Garry
2025-04-23  8:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23 14:58     ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-04-23 15:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23 15:58         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-04-23 16:38           ` John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 12/15] xfs: add xfs_file_dio_write_atomic() John Garry
2025-04-23  8:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23  8:29     ` John Garry
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 13/15] xfs: add xfs_compute_atomic_write_unit_max() John Garry
2025-04-23  8:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 14/15] xfs: update atomic write limits John Garry
2025-04-23  8:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-22 12:27 ` [PATCH v8 15/15] xfs: allow sysadmins to specify a maximum atomic write limit at mount time John Garry
2025-04-23  8:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-04-23 15:01     ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2025-04-23 15:21       ` Darrick J. Wong

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