From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 11:48:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250519-rauben-geldentwertung-3f18b3c8876c@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ddqmhjc2rpzk2jjvunbt3l3eukcn4xzkocqzdg3j4msihdhzko@fizekvxndg2d>
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 12:48:56PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Thu 15-05-25 23:33:22, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > I'm updating the manual pages for POSIX.1-2024, and have some doubts
> > about close(2). The manual page for close(2) says (conforming to
> > POSIX.1-2008):
> >
> > The EINTR error is a somewhat special case. Regarding the EINTR
> > error, POSIX.1‐2008 says:
> >
> > If close() is interrupted by a signal that is to be
> > caught, it shall return -1 with errno set to EINTR and
> > the state of fildes is unspecified.
> >
> > This permits the behavior that occurs on Linux and many other
> > implementations, where, as with other errors that may be re‐
> > ported by close(), the file descriptor is guaranteed to be
> > closed. However, it also permits another possibility: that the
> > implementation returns an EINTR error and keeps the file de‐
> > scriptor open. (According to its documentation, HP‐UX’s close()
> > does this.) The caller must then once more use close() to close
> > the file descriptor, to avoid file descriptor leaks. This di‐
> > vergence in implementation behaviors provides a difficult hurdle
> > for portable applications, since on many implementations,
> > close() must not be called again after an EINTR error, and on at
> > least one, close() must be called again. There are plans to ad‐
> > dress this conundrum for the next major release of the POSIX.1
> > standard.
> >
> > TL;DR: close(2) with EINTR is allowed to either leave the fd open or
> > closed, and Linux leaves it closed, while others (HP-UX only?) leaves it
> > open.
> >
> > Now, POSIX.1-2024 says:
> >
> > If close() is interrupted by a signal that is to be caught, then
> > it is unspecified whether it returns -1 with errno set to
> > [EINTR] and fildes remaining open, or returns -1 with errno set
> > to [EINPROGRESS] and fildes being closed, or returns 0 to
> > indicate successful completion; [...]
> >
> > <https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/functions/close.html>
> >
> > Which seems to bless HP-UX and screw all the others, requiring them to
> > report EINPROGRESS.
> >
> > Was there any discussion about what to do in the Linux kernel?
>
> I'm not aware of any discussions but indeed we are returning EINTR while
> closing the fd. Frankly, changing the error code we return in that case is
> really asking for userspace regressions so I'm of the opinion we just
> ignore the standard as in my opinion it goes against a long established
> reality.
Ignore. We've long since stopped designing apis with input from that
standard in mind. And I think that was a very wise decision.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-19 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-15 21:33 close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 10:48 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-16 12:11 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 12:52 ` [RFC v1] man/man2/close.2: CAVEATS: Document divergence from POSIX.1-2024 Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-16 13:05 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-17 5:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:03 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-17 13:43 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-16 14:39 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 14:52 ` Florian Weimer
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 15:28 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:32 ` Rich Felker
2025-05-17 13:46 ` Alejandro Colomar
2025-05-23 18:10 ` Zack Weinberg
2025-05-24 2:24 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 17:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 17:46 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 18:39 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 19:00 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 20:05 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-20 20:11 ` Paul Eggert
2026-01-20 20:35 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 20:42 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 0:33 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-23 1:02 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 1:38 ` Al Viro
2026-01-23 14:44 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-23 14:05 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-24 19:34 ` The 8472
2026-01-24 21:39 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-24 21:57 ` The 8472
2026-01-25 15:37 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-26 8:51 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-26 12:15 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 13:53 ` The 8472
2026-01-26 15:56 ` Jan Kara
2026-01-26 16:43 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-26 23:01 ` Trevor Gross
2026-01-27 0:49 ` Jeff Layton
2026-01-28 16:58 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-02-05 9:34 ` Jan Kara
2025-05-24 19:25 ` Florian Weimer
2026-01-18 22:23 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-01-20 16:15 ` Zack Weinberg
2026-01-20 16:36 ` Rich Felker
2026-01-20 19:17 ` Al Viro
2026-02-06 15:13 ` Vincent Lefevre
2025-05-16 12:41 ` close(2) with EINTR has been changed by POSIX.1-2024 Mateusz Guzik
2025-05-16 12:41 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-19 23:19 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-20 13:37 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-05-20 23:16 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2025-05-16 19:13 ` Al Viro
2025-05-19 9:48 ` Christian Brauner [this message]
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