From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:50:38 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251007175038.GB3474167@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bB+RdapsozPHe84MP4NVSPLo6vje5hji5MKSg8L6ViAbw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 07, 2025 at 01:10:30PM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>
> 1. Add three more callbacks to liveupdate_file_ops:
> /*
> * Optional. Called by LUO during first get global state call.
> * The handler should allocate/KHO preserve its global state object and return a
> * pointer to it via 'obj'. It must also provide a u64 handle (e.g., a physical
> * address of preserved memory) via 'data_handle' that LUO will save.
> * Return: 0 on success.
> */
> int (*global_state_create)(struct liveupdate_file_handler *h,
> void **obj, u64 *data_handle);
>
> /*
> * Optional. Called by LUO in the new kernel
> * before the first access to the global state. The handler receives
> * the preserved u64 data_handle and should use it to reconstruct its
> * global state object, returning a pointer to it via 'obj'.
> * Return: 0 on success.
> */
> int (*global_state_restore)(struct liveupdate_file_handler *h,
> u64 data_handle, void **obj);
It shouldn't be a "push" like this. Everything has a certain logical point
when it will need the luo data, it should be coded to 'pull' the data
right at that point.
> /*
> * Optional. Called by LUO after the last
> * file for this handler is unpreserved or finished. The handler
> * must free its global state object and any associated resources.
> */
> void (*global_state_destroy)(struct liveupdate_file_handler *h, void *obj);
I'm not sure a callback here is a good idea, the users are synchronous
at early boot, they should get their data and immediately process it
within the context of the caller. A 'unpack' callback does not seem so
useful to me.
> The get/put global state data:
>
> /* Get and lock the data with file_handler scoped lock */
> int liveupdate_fh_global_state_get(struct liveupdate_file_handler *h,
> void **obj);
>
> /* Unlock the data */
> void liveupdate_fh_global_state_put(struct liveupdate_file_handler *h);
Maybe lock/unlock if it is locking.
It seems like a good direction overall. Really need to see how it
works with some examples
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-10-07 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-29 1:02 [PATCH v4 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/30] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/30] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-06 16:30 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-06 18:02 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-06 16:55 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-06 17:23 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/30] kho: drop notifiers Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-06 14:30 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-06 16:17 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-06 16:38 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-06 17:01 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-06 17:21 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-07 12:09 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-07 13:16 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-07 13:30 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/30] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and page ranes Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/30] kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/30] liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/30] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/30] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 09/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 10/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 11/30] liveupdate: luo_session: Add sessions support Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 12/30] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add user interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 13/30] liveupdate: luo_file: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 14/30] liveupdate: luo_session: Add ioctls for file preservation and state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-29 19:07 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-29 20:13 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-29 20:43 ` David Matlack
2025-10-29 20:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-29 21:13 ` David Matlack
2025-10-29 21:17 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-29 22:00 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2025-10-30 14:45 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-29 20:37 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-29 20:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 15/30] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 16/30] kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 17/30] liveupdate: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 18/30] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-03 23:17 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-10-04 2:08 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 19/30] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 20/30] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 21/30] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 22/30] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 23/30] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 24/30] luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 25/30] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 26/30] selftests/liveupdate: Add multi-kexec session lifecycle test Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-03 22:51 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-10-04 2:07 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-04 2:37 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 22:57 ` Vipin Sharma
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 27/30] selftests/liveupdate: Add multi-file and unreclaimed file test Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 28/30] selftests/liveupdate: Add multi-session workflow and state interaction test Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 29/30] selftests/liveupdate: Add test for unreclaimed resource cleanup Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-29 1:03 ` [PATCH v4 30/30] selftests/liveupdate: Add tests for per-session state and cancel cycles Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-07 17:10 ` [PATCH v4 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-07 17:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-10-08 3:18 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-08 7:03 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2025-10-08 16:40 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-08 19:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-08 20:26 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 14:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 15:01 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 15:03 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 16:46 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2025-10-09 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 18:37 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-10 14:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 21:58 ` Samiullah Khawaja
2025-10-09 22:42 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-10 14:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-10 14:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-10 15:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 22:57 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-09 23:50 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-10 15:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-14 13:29 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-20 14:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-27 11:37 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-13 15:23 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-10 12:45 ` Pasha Tatashin
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