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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>, carlos <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] rseq: x86: implement abort-at-ip extension
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:24:13 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2040942183.24657.1642001053391.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0088806280f54211b3f90b2c1a82a140@AcuMS.aculab.com>

----- On Jan 12, 2022, at 10:15 AM, David Laight David.Laight@ACULAB.COM wrote:

> From: Mathieu Desnoyers
>> Sent: 12 January 2022 15:06
>> 
>> ----- On Jan 12, 2022, at 9:58 AM, David Laight David.Laight@ACULAB.COM wrote:
>> 
>> >>  * [*] The openrisc, powerpc64 and x86-64 architectures define a "redzone" as a
>> >>  *     stack area beyond the stack pointer which can be used by the compiler
>> >>  *     to store local variables in leaf functions.
>> >
>> > I wonder if that is really worth the trouble it causes!
>> > By the time a function is spilling values to stack the cost
>> > of a %sp update is almost certainly noise.
>> >
>> > Someone clearly thought it was a 'good idea (tm)'.
>> 
>> I must admit that I've been surprised to learn about these redzones. Thanks for
>> pointing them out to me, it was clearly a blind spot. I suspect it would be
>> useful
>> to introduce per-architecture KERNEL_REDZONE, USER_REDZONE and
>> COMPAT_USER_REDZONE
>> with a asm-generic version defining them to 0, with proper documentation. It
>> would
>> make it clearer to kernel developers working on stuff similar to signal handler
>> delivery that they need to consider these carefully.
> 
> They can never be used in kernel - any ISR would overwrite them.

arch/powerpc/include/asm/ptrace.h define those for ppc64:

113:#define USER_REDZONE_SIZE	512
114:#define KERNEL_REDZONE_SIZE	288

and then uses the kernel redzone size for:

#define STACK_INT_FRAME_SIZE    (sizeof(struct pt_regs) + \
                                 STACK_FRAME_OVERHEAD + KERNEL_REDZONE_SIZE)

which AFAIU should ensure that ISR don't overwrite the redzone within the kernel.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
>	David
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-12 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-10 17:16 [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] rseq: x86: implement abort-at-ip extension Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-10 17:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] selftests: rseq: test abort-at-ip extension on x86 Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-11 11:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] rseq: x86: implement abort-at-ip extension Christian Brauner
2022-01-11 17:43   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-12  8:46     ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-12 14:47       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-12 14:55         ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-12 14:58         ` David Laight
2022-01-12 15:05           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-01-12 15:15             ` David Laight
2022-01-12 15:24               ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2022-01-12 15:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-01-12 15:53                 ` David Laight

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