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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>,
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	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
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	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Hunter <ahh@google.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>,
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	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Will Deacon <will>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.17 02/21] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call (v12)
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:14:05 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <265889560.1.1522250045589.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180328145946.GH4082@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

----- On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@infradead.org wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 10:47:54AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> ----- On Mar 28, 2018, at 8:50 AM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@infradead.org wrote:
>> 
>> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 12:05:23PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> >> diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> >> index fb5fc458547f..66b070444a7e 100644
>> >> --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> >> +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
>> >> @@ -1249,6 +1249,7 @@ static inline void __set_task_cpu(struct task_struct *p,
>> >> unsigned int cpu)
>> >>  #endif
>> >>  	p->wake_cpu = cpu;
>> >>  #endif
>> >> +	rseq_migrate(p);
>> >>  }
>> > 
>> > I think you want that in set_task_cpu(), right next to nr_migrations++.
>> 
>> This would miss the __set_task_cpu() call from sched_fork() and
>> wake_up_new_task().
> 
> Correct; but since those are _new_ tasks they _SHOULD_ not have an
> active RSEQ to begin with.

As long as fork() can be issued from a rseq critical section, nothing
actually prevents this. This is a fork(), not an exec(), so the new tasks
may very well be going through a restartable sequence when fork() happens.

> 
>> Those cases are not accounted as explicit "migrations", but it does change the
>> CPU
>> of the current task. So if for some weird reason userspace wants to fork() while
>> in
>> a rseq critical section, we want to trigger a rseq restart.
> 
> If at all possible I would make it SIGSEGV when issueing SYSCALL()s from
> within an RSEQ.

What's the goal there ? rseq critical sections can technically do system calls
if they wish. Why prevent this ?

How would you handle signal handlers that issue system calls while nested
on top of a rseq critical section in the userspace thread ? SIGSEGV on
SYSCALLs will break this case.

> 
>> An alternative to this would be to call rseq_migrate() in rseq_fork().
>> 
>> Thoughts ?
> 
> Yes, don't try and support that at all. It's _insane_.

Thomas told me those fork corner-cases should be correctly handled
in a previous version of the patchset. I'm following his advice here.

So either we disallow fork() within rseq critical sections completely with
some kind of validation, or we need to provide a non-bogus behavior when this
happens. Given that fork(2) is async-signal-safe, this means a signal handler
can do a fork() while nested on top of a userspace thread's rseq critical section.

So prohibiting fork() from being called over a rseq c.s. does not seem like
something we can do here.

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-28 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-27 16:05 [RFC PATCH for 4.17 00/21] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 01/21] uapi headers: Provide types_32_64.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 02/21] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call (v12) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28  6:47   ` Boqun Feng
2018-03-28 14:06     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 14:31       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 11:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 14:19     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 11:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 14:26     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 12:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 12:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 15:03       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 16:19     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 12:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 14:47     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 14:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 15:14         ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-03-28 15:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 15:37             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 17:49               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 20:19                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 21:25                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-03-29 13:54                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-29 14:23                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-29 15:39                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-29 16:24                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-29 18:02                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-29 18:07                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-29 18:35                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-29 18:46                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-03-29 18:47                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-01 16:13   ` Alan Cox
2018-04-02 15:03     ` Christopher Lameter
2018-04-02 15:27       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-02 15:33     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-03 16:36       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-03 20:32         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 03/21] arm: Add restartable sequences support Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 04/21] arm: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 05/21] x86: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 06/21] x86: Wire up restartable sequence system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 07/21] powerpc: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 08/21] powerpc: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 09/21] sched: Implement push_task_to_cpu (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 10/21] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call (v6) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-28 15:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-03-28 17:54     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 11/21] x86: Wire up cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 12/21] powerpc: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 13/21] arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 14/21] selftests: lib.mk: Introduce OVERRIDE_TARGETS Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 15/21] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests (v7) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 16/21] rseq: selftests: Provide rseq library (v5) Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 17/21] rseq: selftests: Provide percpu_op API Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 18/21] rseq: selftests: Provide basic test Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 19/21] rseq: selftests: Provide basic percpu ops test Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 20/21] rseq: selftests: Provide parametrized tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 16:05 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 21/21] rseq: selftests: Provide Makefile, scripts, gitignore Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-03-27 19:09 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.17 00/21] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Peter Zijlstra

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