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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Roman Bakshansky <bakshansky.lists@gmail.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Thorsten Kukuk <kukuk@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, audit@vger.kernel.org,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Modernizing Linux authentication logs (lastlog, btmp, utmp, wtmp) with SQLite
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 10:59:11 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2d5de14a-17d2-4d08-992e-cbc5d430e231@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <660c10e6-f8b5-46e2-a424-e3e052992b3a@gmail.com>



On 12/03/26 18:01, Roman Bakshansky wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'd like to share a draft RFC proposing a complete overhaul of the legacy
> binary logs used for authentication auditing in Linux: lastlog, btmp, utmp,
> and wtmp.
> 
> These files, designed decades ago, are running into fundamental limitations:
> 
> - Y2038 problem - they use 32-bit timestamps (time_t in lastlog,
>   tv_sec in utmpx). Even on 64-bit systems the fields remain 32-bit
>   due to ABI constraints, so all Linux systems are affected.
> - No extensibility - any new field (e.g., container ID, service name,
>   source IP) requires changing fixed structures, breaking all existing
>   tools that read them.
> - Poor query performance - tools like last, lastb, who have to
>   scan whole files linearly; with millions of records this becomes
>   painfully slow.
> - No atomicity - partial writes during a crash can corrupt logs.
> - Concurrency bottlenecks - multiple writers (sshd, login, etc.)
>   contend for the same file with coarse locking.
> 
> To address this once and for all, the RFC proposes replacing these logs
> with dedicated shared libraries that use SQLite as the storage backend:
> 
> - liblastlog2 - last login time
> - libbtmp2    - failed login attempts
> - libutmp2    - current sessions
> - libwtmp2    - login/logout history
> 
> SQLite brings:
> - 64-bit time -> Y2038 solved forever.
> - Indexes -> O(log N) queries instead of full scans.
> - Extensible schema -> new fields can be added without breaking old tools.
> - ACID and WAL mode -> atomic writes and concurrent access.
> - Portability - runs on any Linux system, no systemd dependency.
> 
> The full RFC, including preliminary database schemas and API drafts,
> is available in the discussion repository:
> 
>     https://github.com/bakshansky/linux-auth-logs
> 
> I'm looking for feedback on the overall direction, the proposed
> interfaces, and the open questions listed in the document (e.g.,
> library naming, database location, fallback options for embedded
> systems). Please use GitHub Issues for comments, or reply to this
> thread - I'll monitor both.
> 
> Thanks for your time and input!

From the glibc standpoint my plan is just to make the accounting database
function no-op [1] (I hopefully to get this in the next 2.44 release).

And I think Thorsten Kukuk already adapted most of the usages in current
distros [2][3] using similar strategy, along with a better systemd
integration.  I am not sure if/when distros are incorporating his work.

[1] https://patchwork.sourceware.org/project/glibc/list/?series=37271
[2] https://www.thkukuk.de/blog/Y2038_glibc_lastlog_64bit/
[3] https://www.thkukuk.de/blog/Y2038_glibc_utmp_64bit/


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-13 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-12 21:01 [RFC] Modernizing Linux authentication logs (lastlog, btmp, utmp, wtmp) with SQLite Roman Bakshansky
2026-03-13 13:59 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2026-03-13 14:45   ` Vincent Lefevre
2026-03-13 17:49     ` Roman Bakshansky
2026-03-13 17:48   ` Roman Bakshansky
2026-03-13 18:03     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2026-03-13 18:51 ` Florian Weimer

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