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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>
Subject: Re: [resend][PATCH] Added PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA option for prctl()
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:32:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f11576a0910092332s6e0e3dcs35864e3a2164be0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e8340490910091957t21eb16e0r63eba2314ddb83a8@mail.gmail.com>

(Doh, I've forgot cc to original author. sorry. cc to timo.)

Hi

very interesting discussion. great.


2009/10/10 Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Andrew Morton
> <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>>> >> + __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ res += access_process_vm(task, mm->env_start,
>>
>> Your email client is converting tabs to non-ascii crap.  gmail.  Sigh.
>
> Weird ... I'll have to see if I can do something about that :/
>
>> OK.
>>
>> But there's no way in which the reader of either the patch or the
>> resulting code can discover this subtlety.
>
> I didn't write the log message or the code - I just mentioned these
> same issues back in the lkml thread :) But yes, this should be
> mentioned somewhere.
>

This is documented in access_process_vm.

3224/*
3225 * Access another process' address space.
3226 * Source/target buffer must be kernel space,
3227 * Do not walk the page table directly, use get_user_pages
3228 */
3229int access_process_vm(struct task_struct *tsk, unsigned long addr,
void *buf, int len, int write)
3230{
3231        struct mm_struct *mm;
3232        struct vm_area_struct *vma;
3233        void *old_buf = buf;
3234
3235        mm = get_task_mm(tsk);
3236        if (!mm)
3237                return 0;
3238
3239        down_read(&mm->mmap_sem);
3240        /* ignore errors, just check how much was successfully
transferred */
3241        while (len) {

However, yes, it is pretty bad place ;)
/* ignore errors, just check how much was successfully transferred */
comment should
be placed in function header comment.

I think separate another patch is better.


>>> The solution is to use the seqlock to detect this, and prevent the
>>> secret information from ever making it back to process B's userspace.
>>> Note that it's not enough to just recheck arg_start, as process A may
>>> reassign the proctitle area back to its original position after having
>>> it somewhere else for a while.
>>
>> Well seqlock is _a_ solution.  Another is to use a mutex or an rwsem
>> around the whole operation.
>>
>> With the code as you propose it, what happens if a process sits in a
>> tight loop running setproctitle?  Do other processes running `ps' get
>> stuck in a livelock until the offending process gets scheduled out?
>
> It does seem like a maximum spin count should be put in there - and
> maybe a timeout as well (since with FUSE etc it's possible to engineer
> page faults that take arbitrarily long).
> Also, it occurs to me that:

makes sense.
I like maximum spin rather than timeout.


>> +     do {
>> +             seq = read_seqbegin(&mm->arg_lock);
>> +
>> +             len = mm->arg_end - mm->arg_start;
>> +             if (len > PAGE_SIZE)
>> +                     len = PAGE_SIZE;
>
> If arg_end or arg_start are modified after this, is it truly safe to
> assume that len will remain <= PAGE_SIZE without a memory barrier
> before the conditional?

1) access_process_vm() doesn't return error value.
2) read_seqretry(&mm->arg_lock, seq)) check seq, not mm->arg_start or len.

then, if arg_{start,end} is modified, access_process_vm() may return 0
and strnlen
makes bad calculation, but read_seqretry() can detect its modify
rightly. I think.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-10  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-09  4:50 [resend][PATCH] Added PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA option for prctl() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-10  0:13 ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-10  2:22   ` Bryan Donlan
     [not found]     ` <3e8340490910091922g7891b31al649e91f15ffae687-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-10  2:42       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]         ` <20091009194250.eb76e338.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-10  2:57           ` Bryan Donlan
2009-10-10  6:32             ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
     [not found]               ` <2f11576a0910092332s6e0e3dcs35864e3a2164be0-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-10  6:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-12 19:03                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                     ` <20091013022335.C741.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 19:22                       ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                         ` <20091012122246.a941013b.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13  0:03                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-10  7:11               ` Bryan Donlan
     [not found]                 ` <3e8340490910100011u17497293o613334c64f1543c8-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 19:03                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]                     ` <20091013031853.C744.A69D9226-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 19:33                       ` Bryan Donlan

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