From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dan Murphy Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/11] platform/x86: asus-wmi: Control RGB keyboard backlight Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 15:45:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2f26dd9e-ada7-8e20-c810-a647854c338c@ti.com> References: <7acd57fe-604a-a96a-4ca2-a25bc88d6405@gmail.com> <20190508171229.GA22024@amd> <52e73640-9fbf-437b-537a-7b3dc167052f@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <52e73640-9fbf-437b-537a-7b3dc167052f@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org To: Yurii Pavlovskyi , Pavel Machek , Andy Shevchenko Cc: Jacek Anaszewski , Linux LED Subsystem , Corentin Chary , Darren Hart , Andy Shevchenko , Daniel Drake , acpi4asus-user , Platform Driver , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-api@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-api@vger.kernel.org Yurii On 5/9/19 2:04 PM, Yurii Pavlovskyi wrote: > First of all, thanks to Andy for all the review comments! > > I will implement all the ones that I didn't directly answer on as well and > update this series shortly. > > Regarding this patch, > > On 08.05.19 19:12, Pavel Machek wrote: >>> Shouldn't be the LED subsystem driver for this? >> >> Yes, please. We have common interface for LED drivers; this needs to >> use it. > > That is indeed a better option and I did in fact considered this first and > even did a test implementation. The discoveries were: > 1. The WMI methods are write-only and only written all at once in a > transaction manner (also invoking solely first RGB-interface method has no > effect until some other keyboard backlight method is called). > 2. In addition to RGB there are several control values, which switch > effects, speed and enable or disable the backlight under specific > conditions or switch whether it is set temporarily or permanently (not that > these are critical functionalities, but for the sake of completeness). > 3. The EC is really slow > # time bash -c "echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/faustus/kbbl_set" > > real 0m0,691s > user 0m0,000s > sys 0m0,691s > > (please ignore the sysfs-path there, it's essentially the same code running > as in this patch). It is consistently same for both temporary and permanent > configuration. Writing after every change would take about (6+)x of that. > Not that it's that unbearable though as it is not likely to be done often. > > I was not quite happy with that implementation so I opted for writing sort > of sysfs wrapper instead that would allow same sort of transactions as > provided by BIOS. I agree that it's non-standard solution. > > If I understood correctly, the typical current RGB led_class devices from > the Linux tree currently provide channels as separate LEDs. There are also > blink / pattern options present, I guess one could misuse them for setting > effects and speed. So one could make 3 devices for RGB + 3 for awake, > sleep, boot modes + 1 for setting effect / speed. > > I'd guess the end solution might be also either something like combination > of both approaches (RGB leds + separate sysfs interface) or some extension > of the led_class device interface. Dropping support of the non-essential > features for the sake of uniformity of ABI would also be an option to > consider (exposing just three RGB LEDs with brightness only), not happy one > though. > > In any case this looks like it might need some additional research, > discussion, development, and a pair of iterations so I tend to separate > this patch from the series and post it extra after the others are through > to avoid dragging 10+ patches around. > > Any suggestions on how to do this properly would be appreciated. That's the > best I could come up with at the moment. > We are working on a framework for this. Please see this series https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/project/lkml/list/?series=390141 It is still a work in progress > Thanks, > Yurii >