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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
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	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
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	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
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	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
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	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Sidhartha Kumar <sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com>,
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	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: add PTE_MARKER_GUARD PTE marker
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 21:13:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43dc4de2-1838-45dd-8d8f-3e5b95624c74@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8329667f-73b6-48fe-8f3c-07c741462fee@suse.cz>

On 21.10.24 19:26, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 10/21/24 19:14, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 07:00:53PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also the existing logic is that existing markers (HW poison, uffd-simulated HW
>>>>>> poison, uffd wp marker) are retained and no error raised on MADV_DONTNEED, and
>>>>>> no error on MADV_FREE either, so it'd be consistent with existing behaviour.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HW poison / uffd-simulated HW poison are expected to be zapped: it's just
>>>>> like a mapped page with HWPOISON. So that is correct.
>>>>
>>>> Well, poison is _not_ zapped on MADV_DONTNEED but _is_ on MADV_FREE :) anyway, I
>>>
>>> Huh?
>>>
>>> madvise_dontneed_single_vma()->zap_page_range_single(details=NULL)->unmap_single_vma(details=NULL)
>>> ... zap_pte_range()
>>>
>>> } else if (is_hwpoison_entry(entry) ||
>>> 	   is_poisoned_swp_entry(entry)) {
>>> 	if (!should_zap_cows(details))
>>> 		continue;
>>> 	...
>>>
>>> Should just zap them.
>>>
>>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Yeah ok it's me who's missing something here, I hadn't noticed details == NULL
>> so should_zap_cows() is true, my mistake!
> 
> Well, good to know it's consistent then. As I've explained I see why zapping
> actual hwpoison makes sense for MADV_DONTNEED/MADV_FREE. That it's done also
> for uffd poison is not completely clear, but maybe it was just easier to
> implement. 

Note that in VM context "uffd poison" really just is "this was hwpoison 
on the source VM, so we mimic that on the destination VM, because the 
data *is* lost" -- so you want the exact same behavior.

For example, when a VM reboots you might just want to ZAP these hwpoison 
entries, and get fresh pages on next access.

So to me it makes sense that they are treated equally.

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-22 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-20 16:20 [PATCH v2 0/5] implement lightweight guard pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: pagewalk: add the ability to install PTEs Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 13:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 13:50     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: add PTE_MARKER_GUARD PTE marker Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 13:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 19:57     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:42     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:13       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:20         ` Dave Hansen
2024-10-21 14:13   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 14:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 14:54       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 15:33         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 15:41           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 16:00           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 16:23             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 16:44               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 16:51                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:00                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:14                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:21                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:26                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 19:13                         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: madvise: implement lightweight guard page mechanism Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:15     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 19:25         ` John Hubbard
2024-10-21 19:39           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:18             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:11   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 20:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 20:30         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:37         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:20             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 21:33               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:35               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 21:46                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-22 19:18                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:45       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 19:08         ` Jann Horn
2024-10-22 19:35           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-22 19:57             ` Jann Horn
2024-10-22 20:45               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] tools: testing: update tools UAPI header for mman-common.h Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] selftests/mm: add self tests for guard page feature Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:31   ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-22 10:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 17:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] implement lightweight guard pages Florian Weimer
2024-10-20 19:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  6:24   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-10-23  7:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23  8:11       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  8:56         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-10-23  9:06           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-23  9:13             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23  9:18               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  9:29                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23 11:31                   ` Marco Elver
2024-10-23 11:36                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23 11:40                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  9:17             ` Dmitry Vyukov

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