From: Vivien Chappelier <vivien.chappelier-L+G57L1VLRbR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
Cedric Le Goater <clg-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
Subrata Modak
<subrata-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2][RFC] add socketat syscall
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:33:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <491AB112.1030806@thomson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49143594.8030109-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Hi,
The socketat() option is fine but only solves half of the problem. I
also need to be able to change the default namespace of a process to
join an existing network namespace.
My use case is the following (embedded router): I have two separate
networks, one with internet access running standard applications and
routing LAN traffic, one with access to the operator network only and
running dedicated applications such as software upgrade or telephony
software. These two networks have to be totally separate and I need the
ability to run applications and open sockets in any of these networks or
even both. With the current proposal, I could have init or some
additional daemon create the two namespaces and ask it to fork and exec
the applications I want to run so that it can give the open socket to
its child. However this solution is not very practical nor elegant
compared to the chvrf approach.
The fs solution proposed by Eric to name, create, and remove network
namespaces is fine. IMHO using the filesystem to create sockets would be
a bad option as the filename would need to be parsed for every protocol
etc.. So combining the filesystem idea with the socketat() syscall is a
good way of solving both issues. In this case, each namespace would be
represented with a single file and we could also give the fd obtained by
opening this file as the socketat() argument. I also prefer extending
socket() as was suggested previously rather than adding a new syscall,
but this is up to the syscall API maintainers to decide.
regards,
Vivien.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-12 10:33 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <20081031215900.810348746@fr.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20081031215900.810348746-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-06 13:22 ` [patch 1/2][RFC] add socketat syscall Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <517f3f820811060522i7b3518aen47907a34b38adee9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-06 13:27 ` Daniel Lezcano
2008-11-06 15:46 ` Michael Kerrisk
[not found] ` <cfd18e0f0811060746l77fbe6fel83402ba543fccb38-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-06 16:18 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <491318DC.4000300-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-07 9:45 ` Subrata Modak
2008-11-07 12:19 ` Cedric Le Goater
[not found] ` <49143263.1040604-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-07 12:33 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <49143594.8030109-NmTC/0ZBporQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-07 16:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-11-12 10:33 ` Vivien Chappelier [this message]
[not found] ` <491AB112.1030806-L+G57L1VLRbR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 15:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1vdutotky.fsf-B27657KtZYmhTnVgQlOflh2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-11-12 15:59 ` Vivien Chappelier
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