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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, aarcange@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] Add preadv & pwritev system calls.
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:20:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49748C1B.8090205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4970DDF9.4090007@redhat.com>

Ulrich Drepper wrote:
> If they are in the kernel there is no reason not to export them from
> glibc.

Great.

> But I have a general comment about all kinds of read syscalls.
> If think they have been misdesigned from day one and if we are going to
> add new ones we might want to fix them.
> 
> The problem is that they don't allow for zero-copy operations in enough
> cases.  The kernel is not free to store the data wherever it wants even
> if the userlevel code is fine with that.

[ ... more text snipped ... ]

I do see the point in adding a interface like this ...

>    ssize_t readz (int fd, void *buf, size_t len, void **res)

... to help the kernel do zero-copy I/O.

I think system calls for vector I/O are *not* the right place for that
though.  Usually applications use vectored I/O because they *do* care
about the place the data is stored, because vectored I/O allows them to
avoid copying data within the application.

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-19 14:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-16 16:45 [PATCH v6 0/5] Add preadv & pwritev system calls Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-16 16:45 ` [PATCH 1/5] create compat_readv() Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-16 16:45 ` [PATCH 2/5] create compat_writev() Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-16 17:28   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-16 16:45 ` [PATCH 3/5] Add preadv and pwritev system calls Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-16 17:34   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-16 16:45 ` [PATCH 4/5] MIPS: Add preadv(2) and pwritev(2) syscalls Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found] ` <1232124344-25892-1-git-send-email-kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-16 16:45   ` [PATCH 5/5] switch compat readv/preadv/writev/pwritev from fget to fget_light Gerd Hoffmann
2009-01-16 16:53   ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Add preadv & pwritev system calls Michael Kerrisk
2009-01-16 17:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-01-16 19:20   ` Ulrich Drepper
2009-01-19 14:20     ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2009-01-21  0:11       ` Petr Baudis
2009-01-21  9:31         ` Gerd Hoffmann

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