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From: Cedric Le Goater <legoater@free.fr>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, mingo@elte.hu,
	mpm@selenic.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	xemul@openvz.org
Subject: Re: How much of a mess does OpenVZ make? ;) Was: What can OpenVZ do?
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:53:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49BA8FA5.5030003@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090313163531.GA10685@us.ibm.com>

Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Cedric Le Goater (legoater@free.fr):
>>> No, what you're suggesting does not suffice.
>> probably. I'm still trying to understand what you mean below :)
>>
>> Man, I hate these hierarchicals pid_ns. one level would have been enough, 
>> just one vpid attribute in 'struct pid*'
> 
> Well I don't mind - temporarily - saying that nested pid namespaces
> are not checkpointable.  It's just that if we're going to need a new
> syscall anyway, then why not go ahead and address the whole problem?
> It's not hugely more complicated, and seems worth it.

yes. agree. there's a thread going on that topic. i'm following it.

[ ... ] 

>> anyway, I think that some CLONE_NEW* should be forbidden. Daniel should
>> send soon a little patch for the ns_cgroup restricting the clone flags
>> being used in a container.
> 
> Uh, that feels a bit over the top.  We want to make this
> uncheckpointable (if it remains so), not prevent the whole action.
> After all I may be running a container which I don't plan on ever
> checkpointing, and inside that container running a job which i do
> want to migrate.

ok. i've been scanning the emails a bit fast. that would be fine 
and useful.

> So depending on if we're doing the Dave or the rest-of-the-world
> way :), we either clear_bit(pidns->may_checkpoint) on the parent
> pid_ns when a child is created, or we walk every task being
> checkpointed and make sure they each are in the same pid_ns.  
> Doesn't that suffice?

yes. this 'may_checkpoint' is a container level info so I wonder 
where you store it. in a cgroup_checkpoint ? sorry for jumping in 
and may be restarting some old topics of discussion.

C.

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Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-27 17:07 [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:07 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 01/14] Create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:20   ` Randy Dunlap
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 02/14] Checkpoint/restart: initial documentation Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 03/14] Make file_pos_read/write() public Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 04/14] General infrastructure for checkpoint restart Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 05/14] x86 support for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-02-24  7:47   ` Nathan Lynch
     [not found]     ` <20090224014739.1b82fc35-4v5LP+xe+1byhTdZtsIeww@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-24 16:06       ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-18  7:21     ` Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 06/14] Dump memory address space Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 07/14] Restore " Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 08/14] Infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 09/14] Dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 11/14] External checkpoint of a task other than ourself Oren Laadan
     [not found] ` <1233076092-8660-1-git-send-email-orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-27 17:08   ` [RFC v13][PATCH 10/14] Restore open file descriprtors Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08   ` [RFC v13][PATCH 12/14] Track in-kernel when we expect checkpoint/restart to work Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08   ` [RFC v13][PATCH 14/14] Restart multiple processes Oren Laadan
2009-01-27 17:08 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 13/14] Checkpoint " Oren Laadan
2009-02-10 17:05 ` [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Dave Hansen
2009-02-11 22:14   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12  9:17     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20090212091721.GB1888-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-12 18:11         ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 20:48           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-13 10:20           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-12 18:11     ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 19:30       ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-12 19:42         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 21:51           ` What can OpenVZ do? Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 22:10             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-12 23:04               ` How much of a mess does OpenVZ make? ;) Was: " Dave Hansen
2009-02-26 15:57                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-10 21:53                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-10 23:28                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-11  8:26                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-12 14:53                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-12 21:01                         ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-12 21:21                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13  4:29                             ` Ying Han
2009-03-13  5:34                               ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]                                 ` <20090313053458.GA28833-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13  6:19                                   ` Ying Han
2009-03-13 17:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-13 19:02                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                   ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903131018390.3940-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 19:35                                     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-13 21:01                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-13 21:51                                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-13 22:15                                           ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-14  0:27                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  8:12                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-16 22:33                                                 ` Kevin Fox
2009-03-19 21:19                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                         ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903131401070.3940-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-14  0:20                                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-14  8:25                                             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                               ` <20090314082532.GB16436-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-14 17:11                                                 ` Joseph Ruscio
2009-03-16  6:01                                               ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13 20:48                                   ` Mike Waychison
2009-03-13 22:35                                     ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-18 18:54                                       ` Mike Waychison
2009-03-18 19:04                                         ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                               ` <604427e00903122129y37ad791aq5fe7ef2552415da9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 15:27                                 ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                                   ` <49BA7B60.60607-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-13 17:11                                     ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-13 17:37                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 15:47                         ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-13 16:35                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 16:53                             ` Cedric Le Goater [this message]
2009-02-26 16:27                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-26 17:33                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20090226173302.GB29439-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-26 18:30                       ` Greg Kurz
2009-02-26 22:17                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                           ` <20090226221709.GA2924-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-27  9:19                             ` Greg Kurz
2009-02-27 10:53                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 14:33                                 ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-27  9:36                           ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-02-26 22:31                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27  9:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  9:19                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 10:57                             ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                           ` <20090227090323.GC16211-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-27  9:22                             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 10:59                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-27 16:14                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-27 21:57                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                             ` <20090227215749.GA3453-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-27 21:54                               ` Dave Hansen
     [not found]                         ` <20090226223112.GA2939-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-01  1:33                           ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                             ` <20090301013304.GA2428-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-01 20:02                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                 ` <20090301200231.GA25276-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-01 20:56                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-01 22:21                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-03 16:17                                     ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-03 18:28                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-13 10:53               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <20090213105302.GC4608-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-16 20:51                   ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-17 22:23                     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                       ` <20090217222319.GA10546-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-17 22:30                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18  0:32                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-18  0:40                             ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18  5:11                               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-18 18:16                                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                   ` <20090218181644.GD19995-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-18 21:27                                     ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-18 23:15                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 19:06                                         ` Banning checkpoint (was: Re: What can OpenVZ do?) Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-19 19:11                                           ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-24  4:47                                             ` Alexey Dobriyan
     [not found]                                               ` <20090224044752.GB3202-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-24  5:11                                                 ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-24 15:43                                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-24 20:09                                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-12 22:17             ` What can OpenVZ do? Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-13 10:27             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-13 11:32               ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-02-13 11:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-13 22:28                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-14  0:04                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-03-14  0:26                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-02-12 22:57         ` [RFC v13][PATCH 00/14] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Dave Hansen
2009-02-12 23:05           ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-12 23:13             ` Dave Hansen
2009-02-13 23:28       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-14 23:08         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-14 23:31           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-14 23:50             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]         ` <20090213152836.0fbbfa7d.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2009-02-16 17:37           ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-13  2:45         ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-13  3:57           ` Oren Laadan

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