From: Christian Riesch <christian@riesch.at>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx.
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:26:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C9BC620.3@riesch.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100923214359.3f287b11@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Alan Cox wrote:
>> Please do not introduce useless additional layers for clock sync. Load
>> these ptp clocks like the other regular clock modules and make them sync
>> system time like any other clock.
>
> I don't think you understand PTP. PTP has masters, a system can need to
> be honouring multiple conflicting masters at once.
AFAIK the master's should not be conflicting. The Best Master Clock
algorithm (BMC) defined in IEEE1588 selects the best master clock. This
clock distributes its notion of time on the network while the other
masters, that is the other clocks/nodes that are configured to
potentially become a master, keep quiet. So usually we will only have
one source of time (the master clock selected by the BMC) and we will
steer our single PHC (PTP hardware clock) to follow this master (Of
course there may be use-cases that require more than one PTP clock,
e.g., for research purposes).
However, if the clock selected by the BMC is switched off, loses its
network connection..., the second best clock is selected by the BMC and
becomes master. This clock may be less accurate and thus our slave clock
has to switch from one notion of time to another. Is that the conflict
you mentioned?
Christian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-23 21:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-23 17:30 [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] posix clocks: introduce a syscall for clock tuning Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <b94ef1cd9c04ef3ad5964408bd0af7251add78de.1285261534.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:48 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285271331.2587.56.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 7:29 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924072946.GA5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 17:55 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 22:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 22:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1009240008390.2416-bi+AKbBUZKagILUCTcTcHdKyNwTtLsGr@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 1:20 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-24 7:55 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924075534.GB5043-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 22:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 2/8] posix clocks: dynamic clock ids Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:31 ` [PATCH 3/8] posix clocks: introduce a sysfs presence Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <cover.1285261533.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 17:32 ` [PATCH 4/8] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:32 ` [PATCH 5/8] ptp: Added a simulated PTP hardware clock Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 6/8] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <57b64051c816dc9cb856bbb9f38fc901c9d3d651.1285261535.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:17 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231348150.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:43 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20100923214359.3f287b11-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 20:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 21:26 ` Christian Riesch [this message]
2010-09-24 11:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 8:49 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:33 ` [PATCH 7/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the IXP46x Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:34 ` [PATCH 8/8] ptp: Added a clock driver for the National Semiconductor PHYTER Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 17:53 ` [PATCH v6 0/8] ptp: IEEE 1588 hardware clock support Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 18:21 ` Jacob Keller
2010-09-23 18:36 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231238170.2962-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 18:59 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285268380.2587.11.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 19:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-23 20:28 ` john stultz
2010-09-23 20:49 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009231533040.7522-sBS69tsa9Uj/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 21:34 ` Christian Riesch
[not found] ` <4C9BC7CE.8020400-U4+xqT1Vg0VeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:37 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-30 3:50 ` Christian Riesch
2010-10-02 1:44 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-09-23 21:42 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285278136.2587.154.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 16:14 ` M. Warner Losh
[not found] ` <20100927.101423.702773873740300798.imp-uzTCJ5RojNnQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-28 6:34 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-24 8:33 ` Richard Cochran
2010-09-23 19:38 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285270733.2587.46.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:50 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924135001.GB3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:57 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 20:49 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <1285274952.2587.113.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-23 21:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-23 22:03 ` john stultz
[not found] ` <20100923213654.0c64b047-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 13:14 ` Richard Cochran
[not found] ` <20100924131407.GA3113-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-24 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-24 14:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-27 15:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-27 17:05 ` Alan Cox
2010-09-28 6:47 ` Richard Cochran
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