From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Paul Menage <menage@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
harald@redhat.com, david@fubar.dk, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH, v10 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 07:35:37 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E9C3D39.9020109@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1318861707.4172.32.camel@twins>
On 10/17/2011 7:28 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Or even when I minimize firefox. That said, ff will probably crash as
> soon as I open a second tab because the retarded thing will very
> likely continue animating everything on the invisible tab anyway. You
> could start by making the X lib of the day, is that XCB these days?,
> issue an error print (you get plenty of those anyway) and progress to
> full on crashing later. This gives developers a migration window and
> incentive to fix up their apps.
so back in the time that worked on a project that used Qt as their
toolkit (geez is it that long ago already ;-) )... we fixed Qt to stop
doing this.
The right level for this sort of thing is the toolkit level (which by
and large also does the animations), not Xlib.
The toolkit level also will then need to provide the right notifications
to the app for things the toolkit does not do
(eg "we're at least partially visible" versus "now none of our pixels
are on the screen").
It ended up being a thing for the toolkit and a minor tweak in the
compositor... and it worked quite ok, the app guys actually
asked for the API (because they knew I would beat them up for getting it
wrong)...
doing things on the xlib level (or even X level) means you take away the
chance for the App(tm) to do things the right way;
make it easy for the app, not hard.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-10-17 14:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-11 16:15 [PATCH, v10 0/3] Introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 1/3] hrtimer: introduce effective timer slack Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 2/3] hrtimer: implement PR_GET_EFFECTIVE_TIMERSLACK Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <1318349729-3108-4-git-send-email-kirill-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-11 16:49 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-14 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20111014154348.ae6267aa.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-14 23:34 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-15 11:20 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-15 19:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 1:39 ` Lennart Poettering
[not found] ` <20111017013921.GA30035-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 3:22 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20111017032232.GA4816-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 5:21 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <4E9BBB6D.4050004-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 7:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 9:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-17 12:46 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20111017124647.GA12838-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 13:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:11 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20111017141147.GA14581-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 14:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:35 ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
[not found] ` <4E9C3D39.9020109-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:40 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 14:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:19 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20111017151920.GA16664-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:31 ` Matthew Garrett
[not found] ` <20111017153142.GA17047-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 16:49 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 15:48 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20111017164839.3887ee3e-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2011-10-17 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 7:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 13:55 ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-17 7:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 19:46 ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
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