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From: Prarit Bhargava <prarit-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	kexec-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	jason.wessel-CWA4WttNNZF54TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty-8n+1lVoiYb80n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf-AgBVmzD5pcezQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	isimatu.yasuaki-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu
	<masami.hiramatsu.pt-FCd8Q96Dh0JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4] kernel, add bug_on_warn
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:48:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <544F90B1.1070102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141028124425.GD3274-KWJ+5VKanrL29G5dvP0v1laTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>



On 10/28/2014 08:44 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> I suppose ... but that would mean I would have to explain to an end user the
>>> elaborate process of enabling kdb, inserting a break point, etc.  The whole
>>> purpose of this is to let an end user panic on WARN() easily.
>>>
>>> Asking an end user to enable kdb is magnitudes worse than asking them to
>>> recompile a kernel.
>>
>> Agreed. Asking a customer to setup and run kdb and put breakpoints is much
>> more pain than simply asking to reboot kernel with a command line option.
> 
> If you have a command line option to execute kdb commands you still
> would only have a command line option, just a slightly longer one.
> 
> kdb="on, bp warn_slowpath_common sr c, go" 

KDB is not on all kernels.  This would require me to go to great lengths to
explain to a user how to set it up, etc., rather than saying "Hi, please add
panic_on_warn as a kernel parameter/echo 1 into /proc/sys/kernel/panic_on_warn
and on the next time you see that WARN() the system will panic and kdump.  Send
me that kdump."

> 
> But it would be a generic facility instead of a special purpose hack.

Generic to KDB be configured on and it is in no way trivial to use.

P.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-28 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-24 12:53 [PATCH V4] kernel, add bug_on_warn Prarit Bhargava
     [not found] ` <1414155207-29839-1-git-send-email-prarit-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 18:05   ` Jason Baron
     [not found]     ` <544E8985.50203-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-27 18:15       ` Prarit Bhargava
2014-10-28  2:32         ` Dave Young
2014-10-28  5:41         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-10-28  0:00 ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2014-10-28 12:16 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]   ` <20141028121636.GC3274-KWJ+5VKanrL29G5dvP0v1laTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-28 12:22     ` Prarit Bhargava
2014-10-28 12:29       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-28 12:44         ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]           ` <20141028124425.GD3274-KWJ+5VKanrL29G5dvP0v1laTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-28 12:48             ` Prarit Bhargava [this message]
     [not found]               ` <544F90B1.1070102-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-28 12:56                 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                   ` <20141028125630.GF3274-KWJ+5VKanrL29G5dvP0v1laTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-28 13:19                     ` Prarit Bhargava
2014-10-28 12:55           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-10-28 12:59             ` Andi Kleen

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