From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ben Maurer <bmaurer-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] getcpu_cache system call: caching current CPU number (x86)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 18:08:08 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <549319255.383.1437070088597.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5CDDBDF2D36D9F43B9F5E99003F6A0D48D5F5DA0-f8hGUhss0nh9TZdEUguypQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
----- On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:34 AM, Ben Maurer bmaurer-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>> If we invoke this per-thread registration directly in the glibc NPTL
>> implementation,
>> in start_thread, do you think it would fit your requirements ?
>
> I guess this would basically be transparent to the user -- we'd just need to
> make sure that the registration happens very early, before any chance of
> calling malloc.
Yes, this is my thinking too.
>
> That said, having the ability for the kernel to understand that TLS
> implementation are laid out using the same offset on each thread seems like
> something that could be valuable long term. Doing so makes it possible to build
> other TLS-based features without forcing each thread to be registered.
AFAIU, using a fixed hardcoded ABI between kernel and user-space might make
transition from the pre-existing ABI (where this memory area is not
reserved) a bit tricky without registering the area, or getting a "feature"
flag, through a system call.
The related question then becomes: should we issue this system call once
per process, or once per thread at thread creation ? Issuing it once per
thread is marginally more costly for thread creation, but seems to be
easier to deal with internally within the kernel.
We could however ensure that only a single system call is needed per new-coming
thread, rather than one system call per feature. One way to do this would be
to register an area that may contain more than just the CPU id. It could
consist of an expandable structure with fixed offsets. When registered, we
could pass the size of that structure as an argument to the system call, so
the kernel knows which features are expected by user-space.
Thoughts ?
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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2015-07-12 18:06 [RFC PATCH] getcpu_cache system call: caching current CPU number (x86) Mathieu Desnoyers
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2015-07-12 18:47 ` Josh Triplett
2015-07-13 3:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13 15:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-13 3:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2015-07-13 15:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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2015-07-13 15:30 ` Andrew Hunter
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2015-07-13 16:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-13 18:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13 11:17 ` Ben Maurer
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2015-07-13 17:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2015-07-14 9:34 ` Ben Maurer
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2015-07-16 18:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
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2015-07-16 19:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-17 10:21 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 15:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2015-07-17 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
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2015-07-17 18:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2015-07-17 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-17 23:28 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 23:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-18 10:35 ` Ondřej Bílka
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2015-07-20 8:35 ` Florian Weimer
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2015-07-20 15:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2015-07-20 15:32 ` Florian Weimer
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2015-07-20 17:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2015-07-20 20:07 ` josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA
2015-07-21 7:55 ` Florian Weimer
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2015-07-20 21:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-20 22:39 ` Linus Torvalds
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2015-07-21 0:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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2015-07-21 7:30 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 12:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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2015-07-21 15:16 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 17:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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2015-07-21 18:00 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 18:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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2015-07-22 7:53 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-21 8:01 ` Florian Weimer
2015-07-20 13:18 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-07-18 7:34 ` Rich Felker
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2015-07-18 10:51 ` Ondřej Bílka
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2015-07-17 10:58 ` Ondřej Bílka
2015-07-17 16:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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