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From: Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net, mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, riel@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, rientjes@google.com,
	ak@linux.intel.com, mgorman@suse.de, raistlin@linux.it,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, atomlin@redhat.com,
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	serge.hallyn@canonical.com, athorlton@sgi.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	vdavydov@parallels.com, daeseok.youn@gmail.com,
	keescook@chromium.org, yangds.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND v4] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:40:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5498498B.90703@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1412200041220.17382@nanos>

On 12/19/2014 04:57 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2014, Khalid Aziz wrote:
>> The queuing problem caused by a task taking a contended lock just before its
>> current timeslice is up which userspace app wouldn't know about, is a real
>> problem nevertheless.
>
> We know that already.
>
>> My patch attempts to avoid the contention in the first
>> place. futex with adaptive spinning is a post-contention solution that tries
>> to minimize the cost of contention but does nothing to avoid the contention.
>
> I never said that adaptive spinning can solve that problem.
>
> If you would have carefuly read what I wrote, you might have noticed,
> that I said:
>
>       a proper futex like spin mechanism
>
> Can you spot the subtle difference between that phrase and 'futex with
> adaptive spinning'?
>
>> Solving this problem using futex can help only if the userspace lock uses
>> futex.
>
> A really fundamentally new and earth shattering insight.
>
> If you would spend your time to actually digest what maintainers are
> telling you, we might make progress on that matter.
>
> But you prefer to spend your time by repeating yourself and providing
> completely useless information.
>
> What you are missing completely here is that neither me nor other
> maintainers involved care about how you spend your time. But we very
> much care about the time WE waste with your behaviour.

I am sorry that you feel the need to continue to resort to personal 
attacks even after I made it clear in my last response that I was not 
going to pursue this patch. There is no possibility of a productive 
discussion of a solution at this point. I hope someone else can find a 
solution you find acceptable.

Thanks,
Khalid


  reply	other threads:[~2014-12-22 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-18 18:44 [PATCH RESEND v4] sched/fair: Add advisory flag for borrowing a timeslice Khalid Aziz
2014-12-18 22:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-12-18 22:42   ` Khalid Aziz
2014-12-18 23:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-12-18 23:38       ` Khalid Aziz
2014-12-19  0:27         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-12-19 21:43           ` Khalid Aziz
2014-12-19 23:57             ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-12-22 16:40               ` Khalid Aziz [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <5498498B.90703-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-23 10:52                   ` Ingo Molnar
2014-12-23 15:13                     ` Khalid Aziz
2014-12-23 18:46                       ` Rik van Riel
2014-12-23 20:47                         ` Khalid Aziz
     [not found]                           ` <5499D4D7.90109-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-23 22:33                             ` Rik van Riel
2015-01-13 11:25                         ` Peter Zijlstra

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