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From: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org, Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	XFS Developers <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	mtk.manpages@gmail.com,
	Linux-Fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 Developers List <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux btrfs Developers List <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Documenting MS_LAZYTIME
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 14:36:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54EF2161.90607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150226133113.GD11217@thunk.org>

On 02/26/2015 02:31 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 09:49:39AM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>> How about somethign like "This mount significantly reduces writes
>>> needed to update the inode's timestamps, especially mtime and actime.
>>
>> What is "actime" in the preceding line? Should it be "ctime"?
> 
> Sorry, no, it should be "atime".

Thanks.

>> I find the wording of there a little confusing. Is the following 
>> a correct rewrite:
>>
>>     The advantage of MS_STRICTATIME | MS_LAZYTIME is that stat(2)
>>     will return the correctly updated atime, but the atime updates
>>     will be flushed to disk only when (1) the inode needs to be 
>>     updated for filesystem / data consistency reasons or (2) the 
>>     inode is pushed out of memory, or (3) the filesystem is 
>>     unmounted.)
> 
> Yes, that's correct.  The only other thing I might add is that in the
> case of a crash, the atime (or mtime) fields on disk might be out of
> date by at most 24 hours.

So in other words, add a sentence to that last para:

    The disadvantage of MS_STRICTATIME | MS_LAZYTIME is that
    in the case of a system crash, the atime and mtime fields
    on disk might be out of date by at most 24 hours.

Right?

Cheers,

Michael

-- 
Michael Kerrisk
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-26 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-20  8:50 Documenting MS_LAZYTIME Michael Kerrisk
     [not found] ` <CAHO5Pa0k7QkV_6BDjwTVxa7LV9tFyN9nGFFcSvOC6HYO08wfrw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-20 12:32   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-02-20 13:22     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-20 15:49 ` Eric Sandeen
2015-02-21  2:56   ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]     ` <20150221025636.GB7922-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-23 12:20       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]         ` <54EB1B19.8050808-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-23 16:24           ` Eric Sandeen
2015-02-26  8:53             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-26  8:49       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-26 13:31         ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-02-26 13:36           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) [this message]
2015-02-27  0:04             ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]               ` <20150227000409.GC17174-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27  8:01                 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                   ` <54F02446.2050008-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27  8:08                     ` Omar Sandoval
2015-02-27  8:36                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
     [not found]                         ` <54F02C73.5090601-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-02-27 14:18                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-02-27 17:51                   ` Darrick J. Wong
     [not found]                     ` <20150227175159.GC11031-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2015-03-03  7:14                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-21  7:57   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-02-22 18:30 ` Robert White

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