From: subscivan <subscivan@gmail.com>
To: Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.de>,
"Ivan.khoronzhuk" <ivan.khoronzhuk@globallogic.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, matt.fleming@intel.com,
ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, grant.likely@linaro.org,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
mikew@google.com, dmidecode-devel@nongnu.org,
leif.lindholm@linaro.org, msalter@redhat.com,
roy.franz@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 2/3] firmware: dmi_scan: add SBMIOS entry and DMI tables
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 20:27:00 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <552FF0E4.709@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1429199064.4386.93.camel@chaos.site>
Jean,
On 16.04.15 18:44, Jean Delvare wrote:
> Hi Ivan,
>
> Le Thursday 16 April 2015 à 15:56 +0300, Ivan.khoronzhuk a écrit :
>> On 16.04.15 12:52, Jean Delvare wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 15:57:02 +0300, Ivan Khoronzhuk wrote:
>>>> +static BIN_ATTR(smbios_entry_point, S_IRUSR, raw_table_read, NULL, 0);
>>> This one could be world-readable as it contains no sensitive
>>> information.
>> It contains the address of DMI table containing sensitive information.
>> Who knows which ways can be used to take it. Anyway, no see reasons in this
>> w/o DMI table. But if you insist I can do it "world-readable".
> OK, you convinced me.
>
>>>> +struct bin_attribute bin_attr_dmi_table =
>>>> + __BIN_ATTR(DMI, S_IRUSR, raw_table_read, NULL, 0);
>>> I do not understand why you don't use BIN_ATTR here too? I tried naming
>>> the attribute bin_attr_DMI and it seems to work just fine, checkpatch
>>> doesn't even complain!
>> I dislike upper case in names, at least in such simple names.
>> It makes me using bin_attr_DMI lower in the code. That's why.
>> But if you like it, I will name it "bin_attr_DMI"
> I don't like upper case in names either, but in this specific case, I'd
> do it for consistency. As you wish though, I really only wanted to know
> the reason.
>
>>>> +
>>>> +static int __init dmi_init(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> + int ret = -ENOMEM;
>>>> + struct kobject *tables_kobj = NULL;
>>>> +
>>>> + if (!dmi_available) {
>>>> + ret = -ENOSYS;
>>>> + goto err;
>>>> + }
>>> This is weird. Can this actually happen?
>>>
>>> We currently have two ways to enter this module: dmi_scan_machine(),
>>> which is called by the architecture code, and dmi_init(), which is
>>> called at subsys_initcall time. As far as I can see,
>>> core/arch_initcalls are guaranteed to be always called before
>>> subsys_initcalls. If we can rely on that, the test above is not needed.
>>> If for any reason we can't, that means that dmi_init() should not be a
>>> subsys_initcall, but should instead be called explicitly at the end of
>>> dmi_scan_machine().
>> We cannot be sure that firmware_kobj created at time of dmi_init().
>> The sources don't oblige you to call it at core level,
>> for instance like it was done for arm64. For x86, dmi_init() can be called
>> before firmware_kobj is created.
> Looking at the code, it seems that firmware_kobj is created very, very
> early in the boot process. In do_basic_setup(), you can see that
> driver_init() (which in turn calls firmware_init(), creating
> firmware_kobj) is called before do_initcalls(). So firmware_kobj must be
> defined before dmi_scan_machine() or dmi_init() is called.
No. Not must, rather should. See below.
>
> Oh, and this wasn't even my point ;-) I'm fine with you checking if
> firmware_kobj is defined. My question was about the dmi_available check
> above. But that question was silly anyway, sorry. I confused
> dmi_available with dmi_initialized. Checking for dmi_available is
> perfectly reasonable, please scratch my objection.
>
>> And if I call it from dmi_init() I suppose
>> I would face an error. As I can't call it in dmi_init I can't be sure that
>> DMI is available at all. So, no, we have to check dmi_available here and
>> call it at subsys layer, where it's supposed to be.
> I can't parse that, I suspect you wrote dmi_init where you actually
> meant dmi_scan_machine? Given how early firmware_kobj is created, I
> think the code currently in dmi_init could in fact go at the end of
> dmi_scan_machine.
Actually, dmi_scan_machine can be called even earlier.
As I've sad, for x86, it's called before firmware_kobj is created.
kernel_start()
setup_arch()
dmi_scan_machine()
And for firmware_init(), as you noticed already:
start_kernel()
rest_init()
kernel_init()
kernel_init_freeable()
do_basic_setup()
driver_init()
firmware_init()
Pay attentions that setup_arch() is called much earlier than rest_init().
So dmi_init couldn't in fact go at the end of dmi_scan_machine.
> But it's not important for the time being, this can be
> attempted later.
>
>>>> (...)
>>>> + kobject_del(dmi_kobj);
>>>> + kobject_put(dmi_kobj);
>>>> + dmi_kobj = NULL;
>>> I'm wondering, wouldn't it make sense to keep dmi_kobj alive (with an
>>> appropriate comment), so that dmi-sysfs has a chance to load? As it is
>>> now, a bug or some unexpected behavior in this new code could cause a
>>> regression for dmi-sysfs users. Just because I don't like dmi_sysfs
>>> doesn't mean we can break it ;-)
>> As I remember it was not so critical for you last time.
>> "I don't care which way you choose". And I've explained my position.
>> But it's not very hard to me to change it. Anyway patch requires re-push.
> You're right, I did not remember we had discussed this already,
> sorry :-(
>
> Well, I still agree that it doesn't really matter, but of two acceptable
> solutions for an event which will most likely never happen, why not go
> for the ones with the fewer lines of code? ;-)
Ok.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-16 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-02 12:57 [Patch 0/3] firmware: dmi_scan: add SBMIOS entry point and DMI tables Ivan Khoronzhuk
[not found] ` <1427979423-22767-1-git-send-email-ivan.khoronzhuk-hExfYMNmJl/Cnp4W7fqMDg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-02 12:57 ` [Patch 1/3] firmware: dmi_scan: rename dmi_table to dmi_decode_table Ivan Khoronzhuk
2015-04-15 11:51 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <1427979423-22767-2-git-send-email-ivan.khoronzhuk-hExfYMNmJl/Cnp4W7fqMDg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 14:35 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20150415143530.GF4804-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 8:35 ` Jean Delvare
2015-04-16 20:16 ` Ivan.khoronzhuk
2015-04-17 8:54 ` Jean Delvare
2015-04-17 10:11 ` Ivan.khoronzhuk
2015-04-17 12:04 ` Ivan.khoronzhuk
[not found] ` <5530F6C7.6060306-hExfYMNmJl/Cnp4W7fqMDg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-17 12:50 ` Jean Delvare
2015-04-17 13:40 ` Matt Fleming
2015-04-17 14:12 ` [dmidecode] " Jean Delvare
2015-04-02 12:57 ` [Patch 2/3] firmware: dmi_scan: add SBMIOS entry and DMI tables Ivan Khoronzhuk
2015-04-03 9:36 ` Ivan.khoronzhuk
[not found] ` <551E5F0B.6050709-hExfYMNmJl/Cnp4W7fqMDg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-15 4:19 ` Roy Franz
[not found] ` <CAFECyb_BGU82vCi0jOz+MbdsxRS-jFoHNsZe5KdOCgpt0K7y+A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 0:54 ` Roy Franz
[not found] ` <CAFECyb9RFAEWMOFCDcKKYBgQk85HoDiG2yfyou6X9qm=Wq5+Pg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 6:48 ` Jean Delvare
2015-04-16 17:08 ` Roy Franz
2015-04-16 9:52 ` Jean Delvare
[not found] ` <20150416115252.7dc964a3-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 12:56 ` Ivan.khoronzhuk
2015-04-16 15:44 ` [dmidecode] " Jean Delvare
2015-04-16 17:27 ` subscivan [this message]
[not found] ` <552FF0E4.709-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-04-16 17:32 ` Ivan.khoronzhuk
2015-04-17 13:02 ` Jean Delvare
2015-04-02 12:57 ` [Patch 3/3] Documentation: ABI: sysfs-firmware-dmi: add -entries suffix to file name Ivan Khoronzhuk
2015-04-15 11:52 ` Jean Delvare
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