From: Daniel Micay <danielmicay-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/17] mm: support madvise(MADV_FREE)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 03:13:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56459B9A.7080501@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151113070356.GG5235@bbox>
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On 13/11/15 02:03 AM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 01:45:52AM -0500, Daniel Micay wrote:
>>> And now I am thinking if we use access bit, we could implment MADV_FREE_UNDO
>>> easily when we need it. Maybe, that's what you want. Right?
>>
>> Yes, but why the access bit instead of the dirty bit for that? It could
>> always be made more strict (i.e. access bit) in the future, while going
>> the other way won't be possible. So I think the dirty bit is really the
>> more conservative choice since if it turns out to be a mistake it can be
>> fixed without a backwards incompatible change.
>
> Absolutely true. That's why I insist on dirty bit until now although
> I didn't tell the reason. But I thought you wanted to change for using
> access bit for the future, too. It seems MADV_FREE start to bloat
> over and over again before knowing real problems and usecases.
> It's almost same situation with volatile ranges so I really want to
> stop at proper point which maintainer should decide, I hope.
> Without it, we will make the feature a lot heavy by just brain storming
> and then causes lots of churn in MM code without real bebenfit
> It would be very painful for us.
Well, I don't think you need more than a good API and an implementation
with no known bugs, kernel security concerns or backwards compatibility
issues. Configuration and API extensions are something for later (i.e.
land a baseline, then submit stuff like sysctl tunables). Just my take
on it though...
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-12 4:32 [PATCH v3 00/17] MADFV_FREE support Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:32 ` [PATCH v3 01/17] mm: support madvise(MADV_FREE) Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-12 5:21 ` Daniel Micay
2015-11-13 6:15 ` Minchan Kim
2015-11-13 6:16 ` Daniel Micay
[not found] ` <56458056.8020105-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-13 6:38 ` Minchan Kim
2015-11-13 6:45 ` Daniel Micay
2015-11-13 7:03 ` Minchan Kim
2015-11-13 8:13 ` Daniel Micay [this message]
2015-11-13 19:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-11-16 2:13 ` Minchan Kim
2015-11-16 3:14 ` yalin wang
[not found] ` <1447302793-5376-2-git-send-email-minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-12 11:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <20151112112620.GB22481-sVvlyX1904swdBt8bTSxpkEMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-13 6:17 ` Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:32 ` [PATCH v3 02/17] mm: define MADV_FREE for some arches Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:32 ` [PATCH v3 03/17] arch: uapi: asm: mman.h: Let MADV_FREE have same value for all architectures Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 11:27 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-11-13 6:18 ` Minchan Kim
[not found] ` <564895F3.8090300@hotmail.com>
2015-11-15 14:23 ` Chen Gang
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 04/17] mm: free swp_entry in madvise_free Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 05/17] mm: move lazily freed pages to inactive list Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 06/17] mm: clear PG_dirty to mark page freeable Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 07/17] mm: mark stable page dirty in KSM Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 08/17] x86: add pmd_[dirty|mkclean] for THP Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 09/17] sparc: " Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 10/17] powerpc: " Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 11/17] arm: add pmd_mkclean " Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 12/17] arm64: " Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 13/17] mm: don't split THP page when syscall is called Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 14/17] mm: introduce wrappers to add new LRU Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 15/17] mm: introduce lazyfree LRU list Minchan Kim
[not found] ` <1447302793-5376-1-git-send-email-minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 16/17] mm: support MADV_FREE on swapless system Minchan Kim
2015-11-12 4:33 ` [PATCH v3 17/17] mm: add knob to tune lazyfreeing Minchan Kim
[not found] ` <1447302793-5376-18-git-send-email-minchan-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-12 19:44 ` Shaohua Li
[not found] ` <20151112194453.GA50352-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-13 6:20 ` Minchan Kim
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