From: "François Revol" <revol@free.fr>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
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"Laszlo Ersek" <lersek@redhat.com>,
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"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
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"Kumar Gala" <galak@codeaurora.org>,
"Leif Lindholm" <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
"Sudeep Holla" <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
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"Ard Biesheuvel" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] devicetree: update documentation for fw_cfg ARM bindings
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:04:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <564C7758.6010103@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqKEi9BozyLQ9sKM3VL-hSSRntDyET859N1qTTMT4jkDOw@mail.gmail.com>
On 17/11/2015 23:14, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 15/11/2015 03:07, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> We generally don't want DT docs to depend on other kernel documentation.
>>
>> DT docs do not contain a copy of the data sheets, either. There is no
>> reason to say how to use the device (and even then, only doing so
>> partially) in the DT docs.
>
> The difference is datasheets apply to all OS's, kernel documentation
> does not. In theory at least this could be used for other OS's, right?
Would be nice indeed, as it's part of their intended purpose.
For now we have to shoehorn things into linux-only stuff (like initrd)
because well, nobody cares enough about NetBSD to compile U-Boot with
its internal API, so let alone adding custom Haiku code.
And of course, for things linux doesn't care about (like framebuffer
description) then we're stuck trying to guess where it's at and writing
drivers for our bootloader.
So if at least people were considering they aren't the only users of
this, that'd make life better for everyone.
> Perhaps QEMU is the right place to thoroughly describe this and DT and
> sysfs docs can refer to it.
The brilliant idea of FDT was that we could have a canonical source and
blob for it where people could send patches, but of course Linux and BSD
freaks disagreed, so you now find Linux-flavoured DTs for rPi and other
things, as well as BSD versions.
Please, at least get the binding documentation for this unique and
usable for everyone!
François.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-18 13:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-14 3:03 [PATCH v4 0/4] SysFS driver for QEMU fw_cfg device Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-11-14 3:03 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's " Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-11-14 3:03 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] kobject: export kset_find_obj() for module use Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-11-14 3:03 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] firmware: create directory hierarchy for sysfs fw_cfg entries Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-11-14 3:03 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] devicetree: update documentation for fw_cfg ARM bindings Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-11-15 2:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rob Herring
2015-11-16 8:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-11-16 13:51 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-11-17 22:14 ` Rob Herring
[not found] ` <CAL_JsqKEi9BozyLQ9sKM3VL-hSSRntDyET859N1qTTMT4jkDOw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-18 2:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-11-18 13:04 ` François Revol [this message]
[not found] ` <564C7758.6010103-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-18 20:54 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
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