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From: Stas Sergeev <stsp-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Linux kernel
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sigaltstack: remove EPERM check to make swapcontext() usable
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 05:49:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56907546.2050706@list.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrUAPqhrt9UjKt5=n=R-Ao7g-emDtt34YXZgyhr3TuFu9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

09.01.2016 05:03, Andy Lutomirski пишет:
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 5:18 PM, Stas Sergeev <stsp-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> linux implements the sigaltstack() in a way that makes it impossible to
>> use with swapcontext(). Per the man page, sigaltstack is allowed to return
>> EPERM if the process is altering its sigaltstack while running on
>> sigaltstack.
>> This is likely needed to consistently return oss->ss_flags, that indicates
>> whether the process is being on sigaltstack or not.
>> Unfortunately, linux takes that permission to return EPERM too literally:
>> it returns EPERM even if you don't want to change to another sigaltstack,
>> but only want to disable sigaltstack with SS_DISABLE.
>> You can't use swapcontext() without disabling sigaltstack first, or the
>> stack will be re-used and overwritten by a subsequent signal.
>>
>> With this patch, disabling sigaltstack inside a signal handler became
>> possible, and the swapcontext() can then be used safely. The oss->ss_flags
>> will then return SS_DISABLE, which doesn't seem to contradict the
>> (very ambiguous) man page wording, namely:
>>         SS_ONSTACK
>>                The process is currently executing on the alternate signal
>>                stack. (Note that it is not possible to change the alternate
>>                signal stack if the process is currently executing on it.)
> You're definitely contradicting the "Note" part, though.  POSIX is
> quite clear, too:
>
> "Attempts to modify the alternate signal stack while the process is
> executing on it fail."
"modify" may not include "disable".
You don't modify the stack's location or size, just temporary disable 
its use.
So I believe SS_DISABLE should be fine.
Of course this is just one of the possible interpretations.
But it is the one that looks simple and satisfies everyone.

>> diff --git a/kernel/signal.c b/kernel/signal.c
>> index f3f1f7a..0a6af54 100644
>> --- a/kernel/signal.c
>> +++ b/kernel/signal.c
>> @@ -3111,18 +3111,13 @@ do_sigaltstack (const stack_t __user *uss, stack_t
>> __user *uoss, unsigned long s
>>           if (error)
>>               goto out;
>>
>> -        error = -EPERM;
>> -        if (on_sig_stack(sp))
>> -            goto out;
>> -
>> -        error = -EINVAL;
>>           /*
>> -         * Note - this code used to test ss_flags incorrectly:
>> -         *        old code may have been written using ss_flags==0
>> -         *      to mean ss_flags==SS_ONSTACK (as this was the only
>> -         *      way that worked) - this fix preserves that older
>> -         *      mechanism.
>> +         * Note - this code used to test on_sig_stack(sp) and
>> +         * return -EPERM. But we need at least SS_DISABLE to
>> +         * work while on sigaltstack, so the check was removed.
>
> That old comment was simply incorrect.  POSIX says:
>
>         The ss_flags member specifies the new stack state.
>         If it is set to SS_DISABLE, the stack is disabled and ss_sp and ss_size
>         are  ignored.  Otherwise, the stack shall be enabled, and the ss_sp and
>         ss_size members specify the new address and size of the stack.
>
> Zero is perfectly valid.  That being said, Linux has apparently
> rejected non-zero non-SA_ONSTACK values for a long time, so we should
> be fine.
>
> I think it would be safer and more posixly correct to change the
> behavior differently:
>
> ss_flags == 0 or SS_DISABLE or SS_ONSTACK: preserve old Linux behavior.
>
> ss_flags == SS_DISABLE | SS_FORCE: disable the altstack regardless of
> whether we're executing on it.
I really dislike the idea of adding SS_FORCE just for SS_DISABLE.
I think it is sane to use SS_DISABLE in a sighandler, and it doesn't
conflict with one of the possible interpretations of posix.
So I wonder what other people think (add Linus to CC).

> ss_flags == SS_ONSTACK | SS_FORCE: change the altstack regardless of
> whether we're executing on it.
This is something that no one will likely ever need.
For SS_DISABLE there is a clear use-case: swapcontext().
So we _need_ to address the SS_DISABLE case.
But why do we care about SA_ONSTACK in a sighandler's case?
Someone later, if need be, can add it together with the SA_FORCE.

> Users of SS_FORCE are required to be very careful with nested signals.
> In particular, changing the altstack using SS_ONSTACK | SS_FORCE is
> very dangerous:
So how about just not allowing such SS_ONSTACK until
someone really needs it... This is more difficult to implement,
but possible. Would you really add a new flag for the funtionality
that is both dangerous and useless?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-09  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-09  1:00 [PATCH 0/2] sigaltstack: remove EPERM check Stas Sergeev
2016-01-09  1:15 ` [PATCH 1/2] selftests: Add test for sigaltstack(SS_DISABLE) inside sighandler Stas Sergeev
     [not found] ` <56905B90.6060505-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-09  1:18   ` [PATCH 2/2] sigaltstack: remove EPERM check to make swapcontext() usable Stas Sergeev
2016-01-09  2:03     ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]       ` <CALCETrUAPqhrt9UjKt5=n=R-Ao7g-emDtt34YXZgyhr3TuFu9w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-09  2:49         ` Stas Sergeev [this message]
     [not found]           ` <56907546.2050706-cmBhpYW9OiY@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-31  2:45             ` Stas Sergeev
2016-01-31  2:53             ` Stas Sergeev

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