From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: bo.li.liu@oracle.com, "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: fallocate mode flag for "unshare blocks"?
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 07:18:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FD079F.3060606@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160331003242.GA5813@localhost.localdomain>
On 2016-03-30 20:32, Liu Bo wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:27:55AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Christoph and I have been working on adding reflink and CoW support to
>> XFS recently. Since the purpose of (mode 0) fallocate is to make sure
>> that future file writes cannot ENOSPC, I extended the XFS fallocate
>> handler to unshare any shared blocks via the copy on write mechanism I
>> built for it. However, Christoph shared the following concerns with
>> me about that interpretation:
>>
>>> I know that I suggested unsharing blocks on fallocate, but it turns out
>>> this is causing problems. Applications expect falloc to be a fast
>>> metadata operation, and copying a potentially large number of blocks
>>> is against that expextation. This is especially bad for the NFS
>>> server, which should not be blocked for a long time in a synchronous
>>> operation.
>>>
>>> I think we'll have to remove the unshare and just fail the fallocate
>>> for a reflinked region for now. I still think it makes sense to expose
>>> an unshare operation, and we probably should make that another
>>> fallocate mode.
>
> I'm expecting fallocate to be fast, too.
>
> Well, btrfs fallocate doesn't allocate space if it's a shared one
> because it thinks the space is already allocated. So a later overwrite
> over this shared extent may hit enospc errors.
And this _really_ should get fixed, otherwise glibc will add a check for
running posix_fallocate against BTRFS and force emulation, and people
_will_ complain about performance.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-31 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20160302155007.GB7125@infradead.org>
[not found] ` <20160302155007.GB7125-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-30 18:27 ` fallocate mode flag for "unshare blocks"? Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-30 18:58 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-03-31 7:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-31 11:13 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <20160330182755.GC2236-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 0:32 ` Liu Bo
2016-03-31 7:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20160331075529.GB4209-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 15:31 ` Andreas Dilger
2016-03-31 15:43 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <3E147309-67EA-4B29-B4E0-883BA03B7BFC-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 16:47 ` Henk Slager
2016-03-31 11:18 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2016-03-31 11:38 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <56FD079F.3060606-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 19:52 ` Liu Bo
2016-03-31 1:18 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-31 7:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-31 11:18 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-31 18:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-31 18:19 ` Darrick J. Wong
[not found] ` <20160331180821.GD22462-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 19:47 ` Andreas Dilger
[not found] ` <779E9BCF-8224-44FE-8AAE-E0341A7B475C-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-31 22:20 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-31 22:34 ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-04-01 0:33 ` Dave Chinner
2016-04-01 2:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
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