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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@lists.linux.dev,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <dhildenb@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v22 1/4] mm: add MAP_DROPPABLE for designating always lazily freeable mappings
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 00:29:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a875a3a-2243-4eab-856f-bc53ccfec3ea@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <378f23cb-362e-413a-b221-09a5352e79f2@redhat.com>

On 10.07.24 05:27, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 09.07.24 15:05, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>> The vDSO getrandom() implementation works with a buffer allocated with a
>> new system call that has certain requirements:
>>
>> - It shouldn't be written to core dumps.
>>     * Easy: VM_DONTDUMP.
>> - It should be zeroed on fork.
>>     * Easy: VM_WIPEONFORK.
>>
>> - It shouldn't be written to swap.
>>     * Uh-oh: mlock is rlimited.
>>     * Uh-oh: mlock isn't inherited by forks.
>>
>> It turns out that the vDSO getrandom() function has three really nice
>> characteristics that we can exploit to solve this problem:
>>
>> 1) Due to being wiped during fork(), the vDSO code is already robust to
>>      having the contents of the pages it reads zeroed out midway through
>>      the function's execution.
>>
>> 2) In the absolute worst case of whatever contingency we're coding for,
>>      we have the option to fallback to the getrandom() syscall, and
>>      everything is fine.
>>
>> 3) The buffers the function uses are only ever useful for a maximum of
>>      60 seconds -- a sort of cache, rather than a long term allocation.
>>
>> These characteristics mean that we can introduce VM_DROPPABLE, which
>> has the following semantics:
>>
>> a) It never is written out to swap.
>> b) Under memory pressure, mm can just drop the pages (so that they're
>>      zero when read back again).
>> c) It is inherited by fork.
>> d) It doesn't count against the mlock budget, since nothing is locked.
>>
>> This is fairly simple to implement, with the one snag that we have to
>> use 64-bit VM_* flags, but this shouldn't be a problem, since the only
>> consumers will probably be 64-bit anyway.
>>
>> This way, allocations used by vDSO getrandom() can use:
>>
>>       VM_DROPPABLE | VM_DONTDUMP | VM_WIPEONFORK | VM_NORESERVE
>>
>> And there will be no problem with using memory when not in use, not
>> wiping on fork(), coredumps, or writing out to swap.
>>
>> In order to let vDSO getrandom() use this, expose these via mmap(2) as
>> MAP_DROPPABLE.
>>
>> Finally, the provided self test ensures that this is working as desired.
> 
> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
> 
> 
> I'll try to think of some corner cases we might be missing.

Sorry that I keep coming up with corner cases :) But these should be easy to handle:

1) We should disallow KSM.

diff --git a/mm/ksm.c b/mm/ksm.c
index df6bae3a5a2c..d6744183ba41 100644
--- a/mm/ksm.c
+++ b/mm/ksm.c
@@ -713,7 +713,7 @@ static bool vma_ksm_compatible(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
  {
         if (vma->vm_flags & (VM_SHARED  | VM_MAYSHARE   | VM_PFNMAP  |
                              VM_IO      | VM_DONTEXPAND | VM_HUGETLB |
-                            VM_MIXEDMAP))
+                            VM_MIXEDMAP | VM_DROPPABLE))
                 return false;           /* just ignore the advice */
  
         if (vma_is_dax(vma))


We don't want to suddenly get pages that are swapbacked.


2) We should disable userfaultfd

diff --git a/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h b/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
index 05d59f74fc88..a12bcf042551 100644
--- a/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
+++ b/include/linux/userfaultfd_k.h
@@ -218,6 +218,9 @@ static inline bool vma_can_userfault(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
  {
         vm_flags &= __VM_UFFD_FLAGS;
  
+       if (vm_flags & VM_DROPPABLE)
+               return false;
+
         if ((vm_flags & VM_UFFD_MINOR) &&
             (!is_vm_hugetlb_page(vma) && !vma_is_shmem(vma)))
                 return false;


Otherwise someone could place swapbacked pages in there (using UFFDIO_MOVE)
I think. But conceptually, I don't think userfaultfd might not make sense at
all with uffd. And if there are good reasons for it in the future, we could
enable the parts that make sense.


I think other places like khugepaged should handle it correctly (not set
swapbacked) due to your changes to folio_add_new_anon_rmap().

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-11 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-09 13:05 [PATCH v22 0/4] implement getrandom() in vDSO Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v22 1/4] mm: add MAP_DROPPABLE for designating always lazily freeable mappings Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-10  3:27   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-10  4:05     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11  0:44       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11  4:32         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11  4:46           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11  5:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-11 17:09               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 17:17                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 17:24                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 17:27                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 17:54                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 17:56                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 18:08                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 18:24                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 18:54                               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 18:56                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 19:18                                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 19:20                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 19:49                                       ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-11 19:52                                         ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-11 19:53                                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 19:58                                           ` Yu Zhao
2024-07-11 20:59                                             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 20:20                                         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 20:59                                           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 17:49                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 17:57                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-11 19:07                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 19:17                     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-07-11 19:22                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-07-11 20:07                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 20:17                     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-11 22:29     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-07-12  1:21       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v22 2/4] random: introduce generic vDSO getrandom() implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v22 3/4] x86: vdso: Wire up getrandom() vDSO implementation Jason A. Donenfeld
2024-07-09 13:05 ` [PATCH v22 4/4] selftests/vDSO: add tests for vgetrandom Jason A. Donenfeld

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