From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, <pedro.falcato@gmail.com>,
<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Oliver Sang <oliver.sang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] selftests: pidfd: add tests for PIDFD_SELF_*
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:14:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b0b8e1e-6f50-4e18-bf46-39b00376c26e@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a6133831-3fc3-49aa-83c6-f9aeef3713c9@lucifer.local>
On 10/16/24 3:06 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 02:00:27PM -0600, Shuah Khan wrote:
>> On 10/16/24 04:20, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
...
>>> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/pidfd/pidfd.h b/tools/testing/selftests/pidfd/pidfd.h
>>> index 88d6830ee004..1640b711889b 100644
>>> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/pidfd/pidfd.h
>>> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/pidfd/pidfd.h
>>> @@ -50,6 +50,14 @@
>>> #define PIDFD_NONBLOCK O_NONBLOCK
>>> #endif
>>> +/* System header file may not have this available. */
>>> +#ifndef PIDFD_SELF_THREAD
>>> +#define PIDFD_SELF_THREAD -100
>>> +#endif
>>> +#ifndef PIDFD_SELF_THREAD_GROUP
>>> +#define PIDFD_SELF_THREAD_GROUP -200
>>> +#endif
>>> +
>>
>> As mentioned in my response to v1 patch:
>>
>> kselftest has dependency on "make headers" and tests include
>> headers from linux/ directory
>
> Right but that assumes you install the kernel headers on the build system,
> which is quite a painful thing to have to do when you are quickly iterating
> on a qemu setup.
>
> This is a use case I use all the time so not at all theoretical.
>
This is turning out to be a fairly typical reaction from kernel
developers, when presented with the "you must first run make headers"
requirement for kselftests.
Peter Zijlstra's "NAK NAK NAK" response [1] last year was the most
colorful, so I'll helpfully cite it here. :)
But seriously...user feedback is rare and valuable. We have some, to the
effect of, "lose that requirement". And we also have an agreement, and
an initial implementation in selftests/mm, on *how* to avoid it [2].
So...let's do it that way? Please?
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20231103121652.GA6217@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net/
[2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e076eaca5906
thanks,
--
John Hubbard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-17 2:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-16 10:20 [PATCH v3 0/3] introduce PIDFD_SELF* sentinels Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-16 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] pidfd: extend pidfd_get_pid() and de-duplicate pid lookup Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-16 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] pidfd: add PIDFD_SELF_* sentinels to refer to own thread/process Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-16 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] selftests: pidfd: add tests for PIDFD_SELF_* Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-16 20:00 ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-16 22:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-16 22:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-16 22:38 ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-17 8:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-17 12:06 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-17 17:17 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-17 17:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-17 17:37 ` John Hubbard
2024-10-17 17:38 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-17 19:37 ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-17 19:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-17 2:14 ` John Hubbard [this message]
2024-10-17 7:54 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-01 11:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01 19:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-05 13:35 ` Christian Brauner
2025-05-06 9:28 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-06 21:18 ` Shuah Khan
2025-05-06 21:34 ` John Hubbard
2025-05-07 20:49 ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-17 2:01 ` The "make headers" requirement, revisited: " John Hubbard
2024-10-17 16:33 ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-17 16:47 ` John Hubbard
2025-05-07 20:50 ` Shuah Khan
2025-05-08 14:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-08 15:06 ` Shuah Khan
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