From: Florian Weimer <fweimer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Colm MacCárthaigh"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:24:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a04f59b-b72b-c468-ea5c-230764a24402@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170811142457.GP30811-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
On 08/11/2017 04:24 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Fri 11-08-17 16:11:44, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> On 08/11/2017 04:06 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>
>>> I am sorry to look too insisting here (I have still hard time to reconcile
>>> myself with the madvise (ab)use) but if we in fact want minherit like
>>> interface why don't we simply add minherit and make the code which wants
>>> to use that interface easier to port? Is the only reason that hooking
>>> into madvise is less code? If yes is that a sufficient reason to justify
>>> the (ab)use of madvise? If there is a general consensus on that part I
>>> will shut up and won't object anymore. Arguably MADV_DONTFORK would fit
>>> into minherit API better as well.
>>
>> It does, OpenBSD calls it MAP_INHERIT_NONE.
>>
>> Could you implement MAP_INHERIT_COPY and MAP_INHERIT_SHARE as well? Or
>> is changing from MAP_SHARED to MAP_PRIVATE and back impossible?
>
> I haven't explored those two very much. Their semantic seems rather
> awkward, especially map_inherit_share one. I guess MAP_INHERIT_COPY
> would be doable. Do we have to support all modes or a missing support
> would disqualify the syscall completely?
I think it would be a bit awkward if we implemented MAP_INHERIT_ZERO and
it would not turn a shared mapping into a private mapping in the child,
or would not work on shared mappings at all, or deviate in any way from
the OpenBSD implementation.
MAP_INHERIT_SHARE for a MAP_PRIVATE mapping which has been modified is a
bit bizarre, and I don't know how OpenBSD implements any of this. It
could well be that the exact behavior implemented in OpenBSD is a poor
fit for the Linux VM implementation.
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-11 15:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20170806140425.20937-1-riel@redhat.com>
2017-08-07 13:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] mm,fork,security: introduce MADV_WIPEONFORK Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170807132257.GH32434-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-07 13:46 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:19 ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:06 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 14:59 ` Rik van Riel
[not found] ` <1502117991.6577.13.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-09 9:59 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-09 12:31 ` Rik van Riel
2017-08-09 12:42 ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-10 13:05 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170810130531.GS23863-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 13:23 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
[not found] ` <CAAF6GDc2hsj-XJj=Rx2ZF6Sh3Ke6nKewABXfqQxQjfDd5QN7Ug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 15:36 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 16:17 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
[not found] ` <CAAF6GDeno6RpHf1KORVSxUL7M-CQfbWFFdyKK8LAWd_6PcJ55Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 17:01 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170810170144.GA987-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-10 22:09 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
[not found] ` <CAAF6GDdFjS612mx1TXzaVk1J-Afz9wsAywTEijO2TG4idxabiw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:06 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170811140653.GO30811-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:11 ` Florian Weimer
[not found] ` <c8cda773-b28d-f35f-7f18-6735584cb173-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 14:24 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20170811142457.GP30811-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-11 15:24 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2017-08-11 15:31 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 15:55 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-07 16:02 ` Colm MacCárthaigh
2017-08-10 13:21 ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-10 14:11 ` Michal Hocko
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