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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
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	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: madvise: implement lightweight guard page mechanism
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2024 22:17:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6c282299-506f-45c9-9ddc-9ef4de582394@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c37ada68-5bf5-4ca5-9de8-c0838160c443@suse.cz>

On 21.10.24 22:11, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 10/20/24 18:20, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> Implement a new lightweight guard page feature, that is regions of userland
>> virtual memory that, when accessed, cause a fatal signal to arise.
>>
>> Currently users must establish PROT_NONE ranges to achieve this.
>>
>> However this is very costly memory-wise - we need a VMA for each and every
>> one of these regions AND they become unmergeable with surrounding VMAs.
>>
>> In addition repeated mmap() calls require repeated kernel context switches
>> and contention of the mmap lock to install these ranges, potentially also
>> having to unmap memory if installed over existing ranges.
>>
>> The lightweight guard approach eliminates the VMA cost altogether - rather
>> than establishing a PROT_NONE VMA, it operates at the level of page table
>> entries - poisoning PTEs such that accesses to them cause a fault followed
>> by a SIGSGEV signal being raised.
>>
>> This is achieved through the PTE marker mechanism, which a previous commit
>> in this series extended to permit this to be done, installed via the
>> generic page walking logic, also extended by a prior commit for this
>> purpose.
>>
>> These poison ranges are established with MADV_GUARD_POISON, and if the
>> range in which they are installed contain any existing mappings, they will
>> be zapped, i.e. free the range and unmap memory (thus mimicking the
>> behaviour of MADV_DONTNEED in this respect).
>>
>> Any existing poison entries will be left untouched. There is no nesting of
>> poisoned pages.
>>
>> Poisoned ranges are NOT cleared by MADV_DONTNEED, as this would be rather
>> unexpected behaviour, but are cleared on process teardown or unmapping of
>> memory ranges.
>>
>> Ranges can have the poison property removed by MADV_GUARD_UNPOISON -
>> 'remedying' the poisoning. The ranges over which this is applied, should
>> they contain non-poison entries, will be untouched, only poison entries
>> will be cleared.
>>
>> We permit this operation on anonymous memory only, and only VMAs which are
>> non-special, non-huge and not mlock()'d (if we permitted this we'd have to
>> drop locked pages which would be rather counterintuitive).
>>
>> Suggested-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
>> Suggested-by: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
>> Suggested-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> +static long madvise_guard_poison(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>> +				 struct vm_area_struct **prev,
>> +				 unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
>> +{
>> +	long err;
>> +
>> +	*prev = vma;
>> +	if (!is_valid_guard_vma(vma, /* allow_locked = */false))
>> +		return -EINVAL;
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * If we install poison markers, then the range is no longer
>> +	 * empty from a page table perspective and therefore it's
>> +	 * appropriate to have an anon_vma.
>> +	 *
>> +	 * This ensures that on fork, we copy page tables correctly.
>> +	 */
>> +	err = anon_vma_prepare(vma);
>> +	if (err)
>> +		return err;
>> +
>> +	/*
>> +	 * Optimistically try to install the guard poison pages first. If any
>> +	 * non-guard pages are encountered, give up and zap the range before
>> +	 * trying again.
>> +	 */
> 
> Should the page walker become powerful enough to handle this in one go? :)
> But sure, if it's too big a task to teach it to zap ptes with all the tlb
> flushing etc (I assume it's something page walkers don't do today), it makes
> sense to do it this way.
> Or we could require userspace to zap first (MADV_DONTNEED), but that would
> unnecessarily mean extra syscalls for the use case of an allocator debug
> mode that wants to turn freed memory to guards to catch use after free.
> So this seems like a good compromise...

Yes please, KIS. We can always implement support for that later if 
really required (leave behavior open when documenting).

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-21 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-20 16:20 [PATCH v2 0/5] implement lightweight guard pages Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: pagewalk: add the ability to install PTEs Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 13:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 13:50     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: add PTE_MARKER_GUARD PTE marker Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 13:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 19:57     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:42     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:13       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:20         ` Dave Hansen
2024-10-21 14:13   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 14:33     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 14:54       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 15:33         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 15:41           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 16:00           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 16:23             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 16:44               ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 16:51                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:00                   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:14                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:21                       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:26                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 19:13                         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm: madvise: implement lightweight guard page mechanism Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 17:15     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 17:23       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 19:25         ` John Hubbard
2024-10-21 19:39           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:18             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:11   ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 20:17     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-10-21 20:25       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 20:30         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:37         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:20             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 21:33               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:35               ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-21 21:46                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-22 19:18                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-21 20:27     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 20:45       ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-22 19:08         ` Jann Horn
2024-10-22 19:35           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-22 19:57             ` Jann Horn
2024-10-22 20:45               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] tools: testing: update tools UAPI header for mman-common.h Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 16:20 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] selftests/mm: add self tests for guard page feature Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-21 21:31   ` Shuah Khan
2024-10-22 10:25     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-20 17:37 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] implement lightweight guard pages Florian Weimer
2024-10-20 19:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  6:24   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-10-23  7:19     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23  8:11       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  8:56         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2024-10-23  9:06           ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-10-23  9:13             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23  9:18               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  9:29                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23 11:31                   ` Marco Elver
2024-10-23 11:36                     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-23 11:40                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-10-23  9:17             ` Dmitry Vyukov

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