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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:43:43 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <718035530.20074.1511369023901.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX84s-WEa5osP0t6CKh8C4Wj7-ARNMpaSp8Eop1_2ycLA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

----- On Nov 22, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Andy Lutomirski luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> ----- On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Andi Kleen andi-Vw/NltI1exuRpAAqCnN02g@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 09:18:38AM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Following changes based on a thorough coding style and patch changelog
>>>> review from Thomas Gleixner and Peter Zijlstra, I'm respinning this
>>>> series for another RFC.
>>>>
>>> My suggestion would be that you also split out the opv system call.
>>> That seems to be main contention point currently, and the restartable
>>> sequences should be useful without it.
>>
>> I consider rseq to be incomplete and a pain to use in various scenarios
>> without cpu_opv.
>>
>> About the contention point you refer to:
>>
>> Using vDSO as an example of how things should be done is just wrong: the
>> vDSO interaction with debugger instruction single-stepping is broken,
>> as I detailed in my previous email.
>>
> 
> If anyone ever reports that as a problem, I'll gladly fix it in the
> kernel.  That's doable without an ABI change.  If rseq-like things
> started breaking single-stepping, we can't just fix it in the kernel.

Very true. And rseq does break both line-level and instruction-level
single-stepping.

> 
> Also, there is one and only one vclock_gettime.  Debuggers can easily
> special-case it.  For all I know, they already do.

As my tests demonstrate, they don't. clock_gettime() vDSO currently
breaks instruction-level single-stepping (istep) with gdb. I'll
forward you the writeup I did on that a few days ago.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-22 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-21 14:18 [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 01/22] uapi headers: Provide types_32_64.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 02/22] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 03/22] arm: Add restartable sequences support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 04/22] arm: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 07/22] powerpc: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 08/22] powerpc: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 09/22] sched: Implement push_task_to_cpu Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v4 10/22] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 11/22] x86: Wire up " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 12/22] powerpc: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 13/22] arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v3 14/22] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121141900.18471-15-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 15:17     ` Shuah Khan
     [not found]       ` <c311cd4b-4d8f-bfb5-3731-2cb2eefa4865-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 16:46         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v3 15/22] rseq: selftests: Provide self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121141900.18471-16-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 15:34     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 17:05       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 17:40         ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 21:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <911090321.19621.1511299340968.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 21:24               ` Shuah Khan
     [not found]                 ` <d059d29d-83a7-f16d-dc84-05a4609a3479-JPH+aEBZ4P+UEJcrhfAQsw@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 21:44                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 19:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20171122193821.GJ3165-IIpfhp3q70x9+YH6RuovlLjjLBE8jN/0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 21:16         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 21:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20171122214813.GK3165-IIpfhp3q70x9+YH6RuovlLjjLBE8jN/0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 22:53         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23  8:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20171123085511.ohwuobf5v32vggho-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23  8:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]         ` <20171123085721.bzburngdsatgewjo-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-24 14:15           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-24 13:55       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 16/22] rseq: selftests: arm: workaround gcc asm size guess Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121141900.18471-17-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 15:39     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 17/22] Fix: membarrier: add missing preempt off around smp_call_function_many Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 18/22] membarrier: selftest: Test private expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v7 19/22] powerpc: membarrier: Skip memory barrier in switch_mm() Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v5 20/22] membarrier: Document scheduler barrier requirements Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v2 21/22] membarrier: provide SHARED_EXPEDITED command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 22/22] membarrier: selftest: Test shared expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 17:21 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Andi Kleen
     [not found]   ` <20171121172144.GL2482-1g7Xle2YJi4/4alezvVtWx2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 22:05     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]       ` <740195164.19702.1511301908907.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 22:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-22 12:36           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <809252084.19901.1511354219731.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 15:25               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-22 19:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-22 19:37           ` Will Deacon
     [not found]             ` <20171122193734.GO22648-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 21:15               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                 ` <165707648.21250.1511471721845.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 22:51                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-23 23:01                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                       ` <739755311.21380.1511478071883.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-23 23:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-24  0:04                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                             ` <1589826840.21401.1511481874141.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-24 14:47                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-23 21:13           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23 21:49             ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-22 15:28       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]         ` <CALCETrX84s-WEa5osP0t6CKh8C4Wj7-ARNMpaSp8Eop1_2ycLA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 16:43           ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
     [not found]             ` <718035530.20074.1511369023901.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 18:10               ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] ` <20171121141900.18471-1-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 14:18   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 05/22] x86: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18   ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 06/22] x86: Wire up restartable sequence system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 22:19   ` [PATCH update for 4.15 1/3] selftests: lib.mk: Introduce OVERRIDE_TARGETS Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121221933.25959-1-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-21 22:19     ` [PATCH update for 4.15 2/3] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests (v4) Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]       ` <20171121221933.25959-2-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 15:20         ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 22:22     ` [PATCH update for 4.15 1/3] selftests: lib.mk: Introduce OVERRIDE_TARGETS Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 15:16     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 22:19 ` [PATCH update for 4.15 3/3] rseq: selftests: Provide self-tests (v4) Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]   ` <20171121221933.25959-3-mathieu.desnoyers-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-11-22 15:23     ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-22 16:31       ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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